Nope, I don’t accept them. I mean come on, a drug addicted person isn’t accepted, too. Everyone would say: “stop it, your lifestyle kills you and makes your family and friends sad.”
And fat people get accepted? Like: “oh it’s okay, eat more till you die, I don’t care.”
This isn’t correct. Blame your fattys and tell them they have to change their life. It’s a slow suicide, and they need help.
Alcoholism is a disease, but it’s the only one you can get yelled at for having. “Goddamn it Otto, you are an alcoholic.” “Goddamn it Otto, you have Lupus.” One of those two doesn’t sound right.
Oh yes, I agree. And it’s only coincidental that I dropped 40 lbs without trying when I got on non-stimulant ADHD meds. Mental health and physical health are unrelated. It’s really just they eat too much and totally within their control.
More than 40% of the USA alone is obese. No where near that many people are obese because they are taking stimulant ADHD meds. It’s great that you lost weight, but a very massive portion of our population is obese because of their eating habits and sedentary lifestyle.
ADHD meds? What are they doing? Lowering the ADHD? Well shit, if I take meds that lowers my “drive” I would get fat, too.
I don’t want to start a discussion about ADHD but maybe it is to decide what could kill you more. They say even Mozart had theoretically ADHD, but they don’t gave him meds, they gave him a Piano.
ADHD causes executive dysfunction. You don’t get to choose what you’re doing.
If that sounds crazy, that’s because it is. That’s why it’s a neurological disorder.
ADHD meds give you more executive function. You get to choose what you do.
Maybe Mozart would’ve been happier if he hyper fixated on harpsichord less and showered more. If he was ADHD, he didn’t get to make that choice.
But regardless, Mozart wouldn’t survive today’s society with a harpsichord fixation. At best he’d be in a mediocre band. At worst he’d be homeless. If you aren’t comfortable with that concept, then maybe we need to fix society.
You have to consider that this is, in some cases, issue of mental health, money, or education.
Garbage foods are the ones most readily available, and health care much less so.
That obviously doesn’t apply to the person going on tv to promote this lifestyle
I feel like casting actions that society views negatively as all the result of trauma is… probably wrong? Like in the case of drugs, sure some people use them as a coping mechanism or whatever, but most people don’t have secret trauma and just think that drugs are fun.
So like that? Did it work? Are you calmed down yet?
Here I’ll try spewing more abuse at you targeting this hostile emotion you’re clearly addicted to . Maybe that will calm you down. But I dunno, it doesn’t seem like it should be the one and only tool in the toolbox to reach for when talking to people about their issues.
No, you’re getting downvoted because there is no such thing as “genetically fat”. Metabolic disorders are a different beast, but even those can be controlled by diet. The psychological tradeoffs of restrictive diets make them a difficult choice for many people who prefer a pharmaceutical route instead. At the fringe people will deny there is a “lifestyle” intervention option at all.
If your genetics give you an abnormally slow metabolism, this will result in you gaining weight based off calories that a normal person would eat to maintain a healthy weight. It’s hard enough for most people with normal metabolisms to eat a healthy diet so saying “well those people can just control it with diet” is grossly optimistic and again puts the “blame” on these people with metabolic disorders for not eating well enough.
You did mention though that those people may go the pharmaceutical route, however that may not be available to a lot of people due to lack of health insurance, lack of knowledge, etc. also these weight loss drugs that have become all the rage as relatively new, like last few years
So to come full circle, yes, some people are fat because of genetics.
To be fair, this is a very small subset of people we’re talking about.
Nope, I don’t accept them. I mean come on, a drug addicted person isn’t accepted, too. Everyone would say: “stop it, your lifestyle kills you and makes your family and friends sad.”
And fat people get accepted? Like: “oh it’s okay, eat more till you die, I don’t care.”
This isn’t correct. Blame your fattys and tell them they have to change their life. It’s a slow suicide, and they need help.
Yes, I also shout at my ADHD friends to pay attention and my depressed friends to just feel better. It works!
- Mitch Hedberg
Both aren’t things that came from uncontrolled misuse of substances or food. Bad examples if you ask me.
Oh yes, I agree. And it’s only coincidental that I dropped 40 lbs without trying when I got on non-stimulant ADHD meds. Mental health and physical health are unrelated. It’s really just they eat too much and totally within their control.
More than 40% of the USA alone is obese. No where near that many people are obese because they are taking stimulant ADHD meds. It’s great that you lost weight, but a very massive portion of our population is obese because of their eating habits and sedentary lifestyle.
Do you think more than 60% of the US has a healthy mental state? In this economy??
Of course they don’t. What do you think you’re proving? I think the world is more complicated than you imagine
That mental health impacts physical health. Follow the conversation, love.
ADHD meds? What are they doing? Lowering the ADHD? Well shit, if I take meds that lowers my “drive” I would get fat, too.
I don’t want to start a discussion about ADHD but maybe it is to decide what could kill you more. They say even Mozart had theoretically ADHD, but they don’t gave him meds, they gave him a Piano.
ADHD causes executive dysfunction. You don’t get to choose what you’re doing.
If that sounds crazy, that’s because it is. That’s why it’s a neurological disorder.
ADHD meds give you more executive function. You get to choose what you do.
Maybe Mozart would’ve been happier if he hyper fixated on harpsichord less and showered more. If he was ADHD, he didn’t get to make that choice.
But regardless, Mozart wouldn’t survive today’s society with a harpsichord fixation. At best he’d be in a mediocre band. At worst he’d be homeless. If you aren’t comfortable with that concept, then maybe we need to fix society.
I would shout at both if they don’t take their meds.
You have to consider that this is, in some cases, issue of mental health, money, or education.
Garbage foods are the ones most readily available, and health care much less so.
That obviously doesn’t apply to the person going on tv to promote this lifestyle
Drug addiction correlates in a similar way though
Overeating, drug addiction, even workaholism and endless accumulation of wealth are all maladaptive coping mechanisms due to unintegrated trauma.
I feel like casting actions that society views negatively as all the result of trauma is… probably wrong? Like in the case of drugs, sure some people use them as a coping mechanism or whatever, but most people don’t have secret trauma and just think that drugs are fun.
Sure, but according to this here memo
ahem
“Fuck the mentally ill”
- every society
It’s more like “fuck telling the mentally ill they’re mentally healthy” -a few people
I’m sorry, I’m not really sure what you mean.
Yes, it’s often education. And that’s something more educated people can help, too.
The promoting person could be some kind of mentally illness. Our brain loves to lie about facts that could hurt us.
You’re angry. Calm down.
So like that? Did it work? Are you calmed down yet?
Here I’ll try spewing more abuse at you targeting this hostile emotion you’re clearly addicted to . Maybe that will calm you down. But I dunno, it doesn’t seem like it should be the one and only tool in the toolbox to reach for when talking to people about their issues.
Some people are genetically fat though, or have metabolic disorders. Just keep that in mind.
Edit: lol, down voted for stating a proven fact? Interesting… not a great look for Lemmy, is it?
Nobody’s genetically landwhale or ham planet. We’re talking people who need landscape tv coverage, not a few pounds extra.
You are factually wrong sir. I suggest you do some research and reconsider.
Very, very few. Far fewer than the 40% of Americans that’re obese.
You are nearly there… If 40% of any group are anything, that is not an individual problem, it’s a systemic issue.
Ok. My point was just that these people exist. I made no claim about the frequency of occurrence.
No, you’re getting downvoted because there is no such thing as “genetically fat”. Metabolic disorders are a different beast, but even those can be controlled by diet. The psychological tradeoffs of restrictive diets make them a difficult choice for many people who prefer a pharmaceutical route instead. At the fringe people will deny there is a “lifestyle” intervention option at all.
Brotha waattttt?
If your genetics give you an abnormally slow metabolism, this will result in you gaining weight based off calories that a normal person would eat to maintain a healthy weight. It’s hard enough for most people with normal metabolisms to eat a healthy diet so saying “well those people can just control it with diet” is grossly optimistic and again puts the “blame” on these people with metabolic disorders for not eating well enough.
You did mention though that those people may go the pharmaceutical route, however that may not be available to a lot of people due to lack of health insurance, lack of knowledge, etc. also these weight loss drugs that have become all the rage as relatively new, like last few years
So to come full circle, yes, some people are fat because of genetics.
To be fair, this is a very small subset of people we’re talking about.
Some people, maybe. 122 million people just in the US, maybe not