• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    it’s not fascist. if it was an official comment from Harris , THEN it would be fascist.

    like this: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-floats-imprisoning-political-opponents-rcna155543

    this is a person whose intent is solely interested in pointing out that society is watching what all the fascist supporting shit-stains do.

    just like this: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ohio-sheriff-suggests-residents-keep-list-harris-yard-sign-addresses-rcna171385

    BTW, since he’s an elected official that makes him a fascist too.

    citizens cannot be a fascist unless they’re in a position of political power, but they can be the little shit-heels the fascists employ. just like the Jewish Ghetto Police in WWII.

    remember, movements can be fascist. electable officials can be fascist. but regular people are just shitheads.

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      1 day ago

      citizens cannot be a fascist unless they’re in a position of political power

      Absolutely absurd.

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      22 hours ago

      Did you just make that up on the spot and kind of just said fuck it I’ll roll with it as the absolute unequivocal truth why not

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        20 hours ago

        I’ll be quoting from the Merriam Webster dictionary.

        https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism#did-you-know

        fascist is based on the Italian word, “fascio”, which means ,“to bundle”.

        ever bundled one thing?

        second, it was made popular in the modern lexicon by Mussolini. it was used to describe a political movement.

        The words fascism and fascist have long been associated with the Fascisti of Benito Mussolini and the fasces, the bundle of rods with an ax among them, which the Fascisti used as a symbol of the Italian people united and obedient to the single authority of the state.

        however, its origin goes back even further.

        From at least 1872 fascio was used in the names of labor and agrarian unions, and in October 1914 a political coalition was formed called the Fascio rivoluzionario d’ azione internazionalista (“revolutionary group for international action”), which advocated Italian participation in World War I on the side of the Allies. Members of this group were first called fascisti in January 1915.

        that last sentence is important. members of that group could be called “fascist” because they were acting under the political coalition.

        so tell me, what political coalition is OP acting under?

        actually now that I’m thinking about it, it’s conceivable that someone acting under Trumps MAGA could be identified as fascist because of the “MAGA” coalition of people. it’s a political coalition, united people obedient to the “state”, hmmmm.

        what’s the name of Harris’ equivalent to MAGA? I can’t remember, can you help me out here?

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          4 hours ago

          Exactly so absolutely in no way are those people all not fascists, which is what you said and people react to

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      18 hours ago

      I literally said that the rethoric was fascist, not person. Fascism is an ideology as well as movement, and people regardless of political power they hold can follow a ideology, so even if I wasn’t referring to rethoric it would still be viable to call someone a fascist - not that it should be done on the basis of single shitty meme. If you believe that communism is the best political system there is, then you are a communist. If you give examples and advocate for this system, then you’re most likely using rethoric that is recognizeably communist, as in, it conveys the message favourable for communism. I’ve already outlined why the message coming from the post is fascist in my oryginal comment. Your claim that one requires a degree of political power in order to be identified by the ideology they believe in would be invalid in terms of USA politics even if it was true - since USA citizens have the right to vote for whomever they want (which the OP tried to restrain with the use of threats) they do hold actual political power and influence, regardless how small it is. I’ve already explained in more details how the rethoric itself was fascist in another comment, referring to the definition and all that. Also, dancing around the definition to whitewash the condemned action is really pointless unless you’re trying to intentionally muddy the water. Convincing people to vote for specific candidate with threats of them being ousted for not doing that is directly what both Mussolini and Hitler did. Mussolini used that tactic in parliamentary elections in 1924, and Sturmabteilung did that in 1932, keeping watch by the pooling stations and threatening voters. Those people absolutely were fascists by any modern definition, and used this rethoric to achieve the same result as one that was intended here. If that isn’t enough red flags for you to call this rethoric fascist, then I don’t think there is enough common ground between our positions to engage in reasonable discussion.