I haven’t seen this kind of scratched liberalism since the outrage against account pronoun preferences years back.

Maybe “struggle session” is the wrong term because there’s a clear and obvious side for comrades and another for scratched liberals.

Maybe Hexbear needs occasional flypaper sessions for the community’s health.

    • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Being cautious of white people is absolutely the right attitude. I have white skin, and too many times have I been talking to some white guy who I thought was fairly reasonable until they hit me with some frothingfash shit and assume I’ll agree because I’m a straight-passing white guy.

      I 100% don’t blame anyone who’s sus of me because of my skin

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        You hit the core of what lmayo people often either can’t or won’t understand; it’s about systems, not individuals.

        and now that you bring it up i wonder how much liberal capitalitalist hyper individuality and meritocracy contributes to protecting whote supremacy.

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          liberal capitalitalist hyper individuality

          This is a primary support system for white supremacy. From it spawns “I got mine, fuck you” and a number of other social poisons that maintains the white supremacist status quo.

          When personal identity is perceived as something bought and worn like Twitter flair emojis, it makes being a disadvantaged person seem like a choice.

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          To quote /u/BeamBrain

          White supremacy is the black hole at the center of liberal thought: not directly observable, but made apparent by how all of their other ideas orbit around it.

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        I pass as white-ish (my ancestry is complicated) and Silicon Valley techbros often mistook me for someone that wanted to hear their “soft eugenics” arguments and the like. flashbang

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        and assume I’ll agree because I’m a straight-passing white guy.

        It’s crazy just how true this is. And this is especially so when you’re a very generic NPC-looking white guy to boot. Nearly all chuds just assume if you look like them you think like them. It’s like, hey, you’re a white guy so you get tons of privilege, why would you ever want that to end?

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          yea my appearance is very much “basic white guy” jeans, T-shirt, and flannel most of the time. I’ve been talking to guys that I’ve worked with for months, long enough for me to start thinking “ok, sure maybe they’re your average"nonpolitical” guys who don’t bother with politics because they think it doesn’t really affect them, maybe I can push some union ideas, stuff like that", then they heard something on the radio and start ranting about “alphabet people” and “groomers” all while my bi ass is standing there :im-in-danger: and I start thinking about a career change

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        I’m trying to remember the name of a multiplayer game that supposedly did their own flypaper test a few years back. Allegedly they had a right-wing dogwhistle as one of their preset report-abusive-user reasons. But instead of banning players that reason was used against, it was used to build up a database of players who frequently abused the report-user function and used that specific reason frequently - and they got the ban en masse. This is only half-remembered from some /r/technology post I read a few years back so it may not have happened at all. But if it really did, I’d love to know the name of the game.

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          League of legends (at least I think it was them) had a “report for being unskilled at the game” option that had no effect except for making the system start to ignore reports from whoever used it

          I have no idea what game you’re thinking of, but if you remember I’d love to know too because it’s even funnier than this

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        I wasn’t early enough to witness this so-called “pronoun struggle,” but if any receipts exist, I’d love to see. I haven’t committed enough masochism lately.

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          Tbh in a lot of ways those early sessions were basically a relitigation of the chapo-stupidpol split on reddit. Very similar vibes.

          I don’t have any receipts but I remember a lot of JAQing lol I made a post parodying that stuff at the time