Trump told Benjamin Netanyahu in one call this month, “Do what you have to do,” according to six people familiar with the conversation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive and confidential information. Trump has said publicly that the two have spoken at least twice in October, with one call as recently as Oct. 19.
“He didn’t tell him what to do militarily, but he expressed that he was impressed by the pagers,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), who was on a call this month with Trump and Netanyahu, referring to the Israeli operation that killed Hezbollah leaders with explosive batteries inside pagers. “He expressed his awe for their military operations and what they have done.”
Graham added: “He told them, do what you have to do to defend yourself, but we’re openly talking about a new Mideast. Trump understands that very much there has to be change with the corrupt Palestinian state.”
Biden has made it clear that his support for Netanyahu is unconditional and his words about peace are empty. Harris has made it clear that her position regarding Gaza is identical to his.
Sigh, here they come!
Aww. People who don’t love genocide like you are all tankies.
We are literally in a thread where it’s reported that Trump plans to let Israel do whatever the fuck they want, and you still want to pretend that Harris is somehow the worse choice.
I didn’t say she was the worse choice. I voted for her already.
She should still change her stance on Netanyahu’s genocide. So should the entire pro-genocide centrist wing of the Democratic Party.
Then I suppose we are in agreement.
Not sure why you are in here calling people genocide lovers for pointing that out though.
“Harris should change her stance regarding Netanyahu’s genocide” maps 1:1 with trump support, as far as a lot of lemmy is concerned.
People are so invested in their support for genocide that they can’t imagine anyone opposing it in good faith.
I’m not sure how you can make a statement like that and then whine about people assuming bad faith, but you do you.
Get called a trumper enough, you stop giving centrists the benefit of the doubt.
You’re preaching into an echo chamber. If these (totally not bots) people can’t read the writing under their noses, they won’t be swayed by you. They’ll wait until it’s moot and then half-assedly say they were duped, à la, as we saw with Baby Boomers and Reagan.
They’ll just blame the left like they did when Clinton lost.
Gotta keep the Progressive Boogeyman in the back pocket to wave around and scare the children
“They’re going to give you… healthcare and union labor protections! OOOooo spooky”
What you say makes sense if you don’t pay attention.
Cool. Where does she differ from Biden on the issue of Netanyahu’s genocide?
EDIT: Silly centrists, downvotes aren’t examples!
I didn’t realize the choice was Harris vs Biden.
Oh yeah, I didn’t know that because it isn’t true. The choice is Harris vs the guy that says Netanyahu should finish the job, criticized him purely for letting his genocidal actions make it to the media, thinks Biden is being too tough on him, and has been in constant contact as a private citizen deliberately undermining peace negotiations.
Harris losing means Bibi’s BFF wins. You’d have to be a pretty evil person with no sympathy for innocent Palestinians to want that to happen. Do you want that to happen?
My assertion was that Harris’ policy doesn’t differ from Biden’s.
Silly centrist, arguing against things I didn’t say because you can’t defend your support for genocide.
I voted for Harris. Keep arguing as though I haven’t just because I’m critical of the only policy centrists won’t abandon at the slightest pressure.
I think the use of the term “unconditional” is fairly reductive. While any US government may continue military support regardless of Israel’s behavior, some governments will be more effective than others in restraining Netanyahu or nesuring Gazan’s receive appropriate support.
I feel confident that neither Biden nor Harris are calling Netanyahu and saying “do what you have to do”.
So true, gut feeling has always been a more reliable barometer of facts than logic and reasoning.
Everyone raised around leaded gas knows that.
We have imposed no conditions. Would you prefer “enthusiastic”? Because it’s that too.
Sure, but you have to acknowledge that of Harris and Trump, one of them would be more unconditional and enthusiastic than the other right?
Already have, plenty of times.
But that doesn’t mean I don’t get to gripe, and it doesn’t mean that griping about it makes me a trumper.
It just looks like centrists just want people to fake happiness about being manipulated into voting for centrists’ genocide.
Ok, that’s precisely why “unconditional” is reductive. It reduces a spectrum of possibilities to a binary “conditional” vs “unconditional” and produces a “both sides are the same” argument.
Except, it really does though? Complaining about Harris is precisely what the republicans, trumpers, and Netanyahu want you to be doing.
You might not like Trump, but you absolutely are (apparently unwittingly) carrying a lot of water for him.
You don’t give a shit who gets elected, as long as no one says anything bad about literal fucking genocide.
When the election is over, what will your new excuse be for why no one can be upset about genocide?
I’m at a loss as to how you could surmise that I don’t care about who gets elected? Everything I’ve been saying is about who gets elected.
You can get as upset as you like about genocide any time, now or later, but maybe in the interim you can help avoid some suffering by not helping Trump get elected.
And you define “getting Trump elected” as “saying anything bad about genocide.”
What’s your excuse gonna be after the election?
Actually we have imposed conditions.
They were bulldozed.
There were no consequences.
Unconditional is apt.