I know these federated communities exist as well as raddle, but it still seems like most people will stay on toxic and corporate-run platforms like reddit or Twitter. Iām far from perfect myself and I still use reddit sometimes, especially for more niche communities, but when it comes to ideologically strong communities like the anarchist ones, it just feels wrong that the majority still hang out on reddit. Or you know, moving to something like Bsky when Twitter became too toxic but which is still run by a large, for-profit corporation (if they moved in the first place). What are your thoughts? Is there any justification for this?
And I said thereās plenty of other decades with āmisunderstandingsā?
And of fucking course the 20s and 30s are the primary focus because thatās the period with the last revolutionary potential which MLs squandered to build Capitalism again.
No, an affinity group is an affinity group a bunch of admins is something else, but can also be valid.
Thereās plenty of scenarios where anarchists take decisions without voting. Again, you donāt get to declare by fiat what is a āmajor decisionā. But Iām glad youāre self-amused at least.
Nonense.
Iām pretty certain youāre a Marxist-Leninist, so you (critically?) support the usual suspects of USSR and PRC. Probably also Cuba and if youāre extreme enough North Korea. Am I wrong?
Thatās not a naturalistic fallacy. Thatās me pointing out that this way of acting is obvious when you donāt decide by fiat why something is āmajor decisionā for others. Iām also pointing out potential hypocrisy.
No, I didnāt say that doing this justifies it. Thatās bad uncharitable reading on your part to claim a fallacy. Iāve actually done āvoting on every banā so Iām familiar with how well it works. Have you?
Just for the record, do tell, what experience do you have running an instance or a comm?
Do you know that for sure? Did you check when slrpnk defederated hexbear?
Again, why do you think you can declare by fiat what is a major decision?
It certainly is. Again, do you know when such instances were blocked comparative to the life of the acting instance?
Just because you disagree what is a āmajor decisionā for other groups of people you donāt belong to, doesnāt mean you are right. The impact of the decision and who gets to vote on it is determined by the people most affected by it. Thatās the core anarchist principle you donāt seem to understand.
If you skip over what I say, you will end up making us go in circles. The next thing I wrote: āI am of course not saying āthe only things are from the 1920sā, but that this is a primary focus. And when asked about the time periods you think of as primary, they popped up. Full circle, lol.ā
Then acknowledge what I said before this and that you skipped over: āRight so they are anarchist instances. And they make important decisions about federation by fiat of a couple admins. And that is very funny for anarchists to do. Inventing scenarios that didnāt happen to say how they are reasonable isā¦ not relevant. In many ways you implicitly acknowledge how silly it is, because none of your examples are, āa couple admins just decide itā, instead you talk about affinity group subsets.ā
Yes of course there are. This is not a real response to anything I have said. We have already long established that this is about making site-wide censorship decisions re: federation, not literally everything. That is just another implicit straw man.
I think, of course, that is it obvious that a site-wide censorship decision is an important one that it is very funny for an anarchist instance to decide via a couple admins.
I do get to say, by fiat, what I think is a major decision. And I think itās actually pretty obviously a major decision, which is why despite being 3-4 comments deep we still have to talk about things like āThereās plenty of scenarios where anarchists take decisions without votingā.
Yesnsense.
āI expect you to be able to explain this without my input, as you are so certain, right?ā
I do get to decide my opinions by āfiatā, lol. Got the thought police in here. Why are you copying my terminology to use it inappropriately for other situations?
But okay, I will accept that what you meant was that it was obvious. I will simply disagree (for the 5th time), because I think it is obvious that site-wide censorship is obviously a significant decision.
My point, which I will say was not obvious, when it comes to voting on every ban, was that it would be better to overcorrect in the opposite decision.
I have experience with both. Itās thankless, isnāt it?
slrpnk did not defederate from hexbear. It blocked hexbear without announcement, by fiat of its main admin. It confirmed this blocking/ādefedereationā in August last year. This was not something discussed nor presented, lol. Itās just one admin doing what they would like.
lmao there it is again.
A censorship decision is of course major, it is about who your instanceās users can interact with via your website. If your federated social media website is anything at all, it is about users and how they interact, what they post, etc.
And again, non-anarchist instances have done this. Itās very very very funny that anarchists ones donāt.
It is painfully obviously not. An admin quietly implementing a decision to block after the instance existed and then letting people know this is how it was last year is not in any way an anarchist collective where everyoneās just agreeing to those pre-existing bylaws by joining. It is just a website with an admin making the decision on their own.
Uh yeah?
I think this straw manning thing might be a habit.
Of course that is literally not the case here, is it? Or did slrpnk vote to block/defederate?
The core anarchist principle that nobody gets to judge who is anarchist unless they are a member of that particular anarchist group? I would love to see that core principle justified. Please show me your sources!