Vote for the change you want to see.

The Republican party got remade because trumpists showed up and outvoted the party elites. No reason it can’t happen for the Left except for laziness and apathy.

If all the progressives furious about the state of affairs now had shown up for Sanders in 2016, I doubt we’d be in this hellish timeline. Sadly, he needed the young progressive vote to show up.

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    My state has one of the very last primaries, after the outcome is already decided. I did vote for Bernie in 2016 and 2020, but it meant nothing because he had already dropped out of the race by then.

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      Fair. The state by state process seems so weird to me. (So, we should vote more folks into the DNC and change it! There’s a theme here somewhere…)

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        Expecting to change the system from within is laughably naive. We still can’t pass legislation to replace the electoral college, 24 years after Al Gore got cheated.

        Shouting down people who try to talk about real problems with “Well then I guess you should’ve voted!” is obnoxiously unhelpful. Bitch, I fucking did vote, and the problem is still here, so what now?

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          “I voted and things are STILL bad? I was promised everything would change if I voted!”

          See how silly that sounds?

          Trump radically remade the GOP because his people showed up and voted. Sanders could’ve if we had voted.

          If you can’t even get enough people on the Left to show up and vote for a progressive, how on Earth do you expect to enact more radical change?

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            So are you admitting that voting alone isn’t enough? That you can’t just promise everything will be solved by voting?

            Because then I’m asking you to stop shouting down the voices of those us feeling disenfranchised by a rigged system.

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              What? How is that your take away from the comment above? Did you mean to respond to something else?

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                “I voted and things are STILL bad? I was promised everything would change if I voted!”

                I’m responding to this. I know you can’t just promise that everything will change through voting alone. So why is this whole thread just you shouting down those of us who feel rightfully disenfranchised about it?

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                  Holy goddamn, really?

                  Yes, one vote doesn’t change anything, especially not in a country of 300 million.

                  But getting a lot of people to vote does change things.

                  If you’re actually so childish as to believe “well, I voted so everything should be fixed”, holy damn, adulthood is going to be difficult.

                  Not getting your way even though you cast a vote is normal. Not getting our way when progressives outvote the moderates, well, that’d be a different story but so far it hasn’t happened because we don’t show up in sufficient numbers to win.

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                    What was the purpose of this thread? To shout at anyone who complains about anything ever with “well why didn’t you vote?”, as if none of us did?