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    Yeah, I’m giving up after this.

    The Democratic party just can’t deal with the stupidity and racism that is the American population.

    I mean for fucks sake, Black and Latino voters increased their votes for Trump this time around.

    Just time to hang up the hat and let America burn.

    Also:

    Biden got 81,282,916 votes

    Harris got 66,153,556 votes

    Americans didn’t even bother to show up and now we have a Republicans in control of all three branches again. Yeah, there’s no saving this democracy.

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      Americans didn’t even bother to show up and now we have a Republicans in control of all three branches again.>

      Absolutely. Trump did not have a significant bump in votes, 10 million voters did not turn out, or so early figures show. Of them, it’s largely white suburban males. Apathy leads to populism. Dr. King had something to say about white liberals…

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        Sure but at the same time Blacks and Latinos made significant bumps to the Trump vote here too. I would have to imagine that Dr. Kind would have some choice words for them too.

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      Today is a dark day. But, I will say this…

      When the world gets dark, new lights often appear. It’s a funny thing, but good people tend to be quiet and reserved. It’s the anger of the patient person, and the good people pushed too far, that often can incite the most change. As Mr. Rogers’ mother famously told him - look for the helpers when you see scary things unfold.

      It’s time for the helpers.

      I hope everyone reading this understands what this means. We must help now. Don’t look for the helpers, because we aren’t children, as Fred Roger’s once was…

      Protect the people around you, especially the vulnerable and those at the most risk. Do it at the cost of your safety and well-being.

      Cruelty has won a great battle today, but it can’t win the war without a fight.

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        Tough times make tough people

        Tough people make easy times.

        Easy times make weak people.

        Weak people make tough times. <--------We are here.

        Tough times make Tough people <------ Your light of hope.

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          Tough times make Tough people <------ Your light of hope.

          No, the tough times were 2020-2024 when the fallout of Trump policies raised the cost of living, helped erode women’s rights to their own bodies, and encouraged corporate enshittification to go even more out of control.

          It’s now “tough times make bigoted people who scapegoat minorities,” apparently.

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            Nobody said the tough times would end after just four years. I think it’s going to get worse before it gets better. The night has just begun, and it’s time for the lantern bearers to find their lights.

            I’m American. They can’t have my country without a fight. I’ll fight every ounce of their cruelty with kindness, and displace their xenophobia and racism with acceptance and support.

            There are millions of us.

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      Maybe a lot of Democrats also dislike women in power and black people. Maybe the American people, regardless of the party they say they support, are still very conservative. This is not an unpopular opinion outside the USA.

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        Yes. That is the ultimate conclusion for me as well. The American people voted for racism and sexism, because they are racist and sexist. America can’t do better because this is the best we have. Trump represents conservatives. It’s really confusing because his actions aren’t conservative… but here we are.

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          This is the best we have

          The best America can do is fucking awful. It’s been this way for years. We elected Bush II twice. We elected Reagan twice. We elected Nixon twice. It’s always been a shitty country filled with terrible people.

          I’d like to say I’m glad other people are starting to realize something I’ve known for years, but people are going to get hurt because “patriotic liberals” didn’t have the courage to admit we’re the shithole country.

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            It was a failure of the voter. No campaign Harris could’ve ran would’ve won. Biden needed to pick a different veep, that’s why this is happening. Had it been a white guy, we’d be fine. Race and sex do matter

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              Democrats had a mulligan. Instead of finding a candidate that gave them the best chance, they pick the person next in line. Would have been difficult to pick someone else? Yes. Would it have been worth it? I think so.

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          I don’t think it’s that simple, but it’s understandable to think like this just the next morning after such a defeat.

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      Don’t forget they are going to intentionally force us back to coal and oil, and stifle all transitions to cleaner energy. So really how bad could it be

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            The Oxygen Catastrophe wasn’t a one-time poisoning. It was a series of oxygenation waves, killing themselves off only to rebuild and kill themselves off again. We were never cured of the oxygen polluters.

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      In addition to what you said, I wonder how Biden and then Harris deciddd to become the nominee. What the methodology was. The dems could have hired a psychologist who could have guided them on the kind of candidate that would have won the American people over. They could have hired a pr team to help manage their campaign. The dems essentially took a bigger risk than it did in 2016 and it backfired on them again… except this time less people voted.

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      I’m sorry that part of my immigrant family is this stupid. Thankfully, they can’t vote fwiw. 🤷‍♂️

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        Don’t feel bad man, your family isn’t you and you can’t control when your family does something stupid. Heck my immigrant family that can vote was going on about not voting this year because of both sides bullshit and I had to talk them that yeah, you need to vote regardless. Not that it mattered because native born Americans are such a lost cause at this point.

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          My parents didn’t vote either. They’re also upset that they don’t have many choices because they’re independents. To them it doesn’t matter who the president is, to them it is inconsequential.

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            Then encourage them on reforms to get rid of First-past-the-post and they may get someone who is capable of thinking and breathing to vote for.

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      Yeah it’s never the fault of the party, it’s all those stupid people exercizing their right to choose. Maybe if dems didn’t put all their worth in being “the least worst option” and actually tried to be a good party this wouldn’t have happened.

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        Considering voter turnout for the Democrats was abysmal compared to 2020, yes: it is the fault of those stupid people choosing to abstain from voting because good enough wasn’t good enough.

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        I’ll continue to deny claims that Kamala was “least worst”. She seemed like a pretty good option to me, and the only criticisms I’ve heard of her were that she was not quite perfect on every issue they cared about.

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        End of the day, Americans voted for a proven rapist, a convicted felon, and a white supremacist to the oval office over someone who isn’t so yeah, stupid people exercising their right to vote are to blame. Enjoy your tariffs.

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          “My” tariffs? You think i am happy for this? You are part of those stupid americans maybe, incapable of understanding that not everyone that does not think like you is your enemy

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              I don’t know why you are considering them not bright here. Empirically, being the least worst option has barely worked with record turn out during an active pandemic. Aside from that, not being a convicted rapist is simple not enough to motivate people to the voting booths, so maybe the tactics need to change? I can argue what ought to be, but the simple reality is very clear, “Not Trump” isn’t a winning strategy and we should try something else.

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                  My guess is that it’s a bit reality shattering to contend with the fact that lying and cheating is plenty good enough to not only win, but win in a landslide. Harsh truths and all.

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                    Lieing isnt agains the rules anywhere, except in court. Then its only illegal if you get caught or cant pay more lawyers.