• niucllos@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Sure, but if she had spent her few months promising to tax the shit out of Elon Musk and other billionaires I bet people would have been more excited and actually showed up to vote than when she promised to keep the course and also appoint a Republican

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      2 months ago

      Harris literally campaigned with a promise to tax the billionaires more.

      Billionaires countered her campaign by doing things like literally buying votes.

      Now people on lemmy are pretending she never promised to tax billionaires more.

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        1 month ago

        Sorry, I meant she should have been Bernie-style grandstanding about it and hammering it home and making it a core part of her campaign more than it not being in her plans at all. I feel like she started with that kind of message and was doing well and ended with the Cheneys like me and ill put a Republican in my cabinet and lost

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          1 month ago

          The polls show most voters were motivated by inflation and thought democrats were to blame. Republicans and the billionaire class convinced enough voters that increasing taxes on billionaires would make it worse.

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        1 month ago

        thats nice, did you figure out how that would translates to americans affording a roof, eggs, and milk?

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          Ya it’s called common sense. See our government expenses are paid with taxes so if billionaires pay less taxes the rest of us pay more so we have less money for a roof, eggs and milk.

          If we tax billionaires for their fair share then we pay less taxes and have more money.

          I guess common sense isn’t so common.

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            😂 oh boy. Child i said eggs, milk, and roofs.

            Taxes are literally the last thing thats the problem there. We’re at historic lows. Lowering them for the low/middle class isnt going to get them food/housing.

            You crow about common sense and then completely misfire.

            Dont get me wrong I’m all for taxing billionaires hard. But thats not going to put more money in your pocket for the items above.

            You’ll need to do a lot more than tax billionaires harder to fix those issues.

            And im here for those changes in addition to taking billionaires more.

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              1 month ago

              The benefits don’t end there. If you really need me to keep explaining economics to you then just go take a course. If we taxed billionaires their fair share we could afford public services like child care or health care. Income inequality is the root of many of our problems in America. Including politics because now the wealthy have enough to literally buy votes as we saw with Elon Musk.

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                I dont need the economics courses but you might. The three basic things i listed are the three things people put before any other priorities. Please revisit your economy studies if you didnt recognize this. Your points about taxing billionaires dont matter until those three things are met for the voting population. And atm people are struggling with food (inflation), roofs (inflation, housing crisis), and fucking safety (muslims friends and family are literally being murdered by us).

                So kindly before you think about lecturing people on economic policy of taxing billionaires make sure you understand wtf people are dealing with.

                Because news flash: im all about taxing them and probably understand the 2nd/3rd order impacts of doing so better than you. But i also understand that such a policy wouldnt have shifted voters struggling with the first three issues.

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                  1 month ago

                  I’ve aced all my macro and micro economics classes. If you think you know more than an accredited college the go teach yourself the basics because you’ve already proven you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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                    1 month ago

                    😂 child i have two degrees, one masters (cs), and two bachelor’s (cs, biology specifically a medical degree for my humanitarian work). My college required economics courses. Ive forgotten more math than you’ve probably been introduced to.

                    congrats acing your economics courses. I remember acing them too while sleeping through them. Clearly they didnt teach you how to think unfortunately but not unsurprising.

                    Demonstrated by the fact I literally told you i agree with you on taxing billionaires, just that it wasn’t relevant to voters who are struggling. They dont care if billionaires are taxed or not when they can’t put food on the table, a roof over their head, or are unsafe. If you want to win an election telling people we’ll tax billionaires when they want food security and their friends and family to stop being murdered is asinine.

                    So please either revisit your economics courses or at the very least learn how to comprehend what you’re reading.