Was reminded how Epstien not killing himself was/is so accepted yet it’s still a conspiracy theory. Is there any similar ones you guys believe to be completely true ?
Just the boring one: That all the exciting conspiracies (and other stuff like “culture wars”) are there to distract from the banal reality of most people and the world being exploited by a few selfish assholes.
It’s interesting that the big “revelations” of conspiracy are things we jokingly referenced and always kind of knew:
Movie executives forcing women to sleep with them or be sexually assaulted to be able to work in the industry.
The catholic church sexually abusing children and covering it up.
Buying votes and Supreme Court judgements.
So what are we joking about now but not doing anything about? Russia owning an entire political party through blackmail? The Left is indoctrinating and grooming kids into thinking that their assigned-at-birth gender might not be their real gender and that non-heterosexual and nonmonogamous relationships are as legitimate as those Ordained By God and that pregnancy planning, prevention, and terminating is a women’s health care issue between them and their doctor and nobody else (I mean… yeah. I guess that conspiracy is openly true and not really a conspiracy but an openly stated goal, and not that we should be trying to prevent or stop it).
You don’t need a shadowy conspiracy when you make it legal to bribe politicians and write the laws for them. It’s all done out in the open. Regulators and board rooms have revolving doors for the same few people, and they all make insanely disgusting amounts of money while the rest of us suffer.
I’m not saying a few people fucking over the rest is a conspiracy theory.
I’m saying that all those conspiracy theories people love to discuss are pushed to capture the attention of those people and have them think they’re involved in something important and spend all their energy on that, so the assholes can keep on fucking them over without much resistance.
Seems pertinent that US politicians suddenly mentioned a totally reliable account about possible aliens just as people’s unrest over their cost of living and the excesses of the wealthy has been rising.
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Exactly. It struck me that they must be diverting attention from something when they came out with the alien stuff
John McAfee is still alive
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I remember the first time i heard a right wing person tell me about Qanon. She was really believing it. I was speechless when she got done.
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That our entire existence and the world we live in -our so called reality- is being manipulated in every corner. Whether its historical, economical, entertainment wise, food, you name it.
MLK was killed by the US Government/with Government warning and approval not because of his policies on race, but because his message was getting (though somewhat always had been) socialist/anti-capitalist, and between the historic fear of slave revolts, the new fear of communist revolutions, and the monied business interests not wanting to cede any power they ended MLK to prevent potential calls for a social revolution.
That ones not really a conspiracy. We know the FBI did it.
People just don’t care, which is the most fucked up part
That doesn’t make it not a conspiracy, it makes it not a conspiracy theory. Instead, it is a factual conspiracy that is just not well known.
People care, but what are you going to do? Until the majority is ready to violently overthrow corrupt institutions you’re stuck with it. Now getting the majority to agree on which ones are corrupt… hoo boy. Good luck, America.
Do you really think making a martyr out of MLK is a strategy the US gov wouldn’t have anticipated had they murdered him/let him be murdered?
Dude would not be what he is today had he not been murdered.
Have you ever listened to MLK speak or read anything he’s written? Dude would absolutely be what he is today if he had not been murdered.
Have you ever listened to MLK speak or read anything he’s written?
No I was raised in Antarctica.
Dude would absolutely be what he is today if he had not been murdered.
Not a chance. There is no shortage of motivational speakers in this world.
But as a martyr the government can paint him as being only about racism, not about economics.
Also he was assassinated 4 years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, so to say he wouldnt remembered without being killed is a gross exaggeration. It may have boosted his legacy, but there is not doubt he would still be an important figure in American history.
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Also tupac and biggie got removed becuase they spoke about things elites didnt like to be replaced by the prosperity rap clowns to worship them and their money to the plebs.
sardines are actually a cheap, nutritious and filling dinner
It’s insane how many left leaning leaders were assassinated. And it isn’t a coincidence that it was during the red scare. What we KNOW about McCarthyism is crazy enough, now think of all the stuff they wouldn’t say out loud to fight the “red menace.”
J Edgar Hoover wanted to round up all the “leftists” and put them in camps.
I put quotes around leftist because simply not hating black people was enough to get you on that list.
People are so unaware how common politically motivated murder was in the late 19th/early 20th century in the US. Our country is rittled with shallow graves belonging to labor and civil rights activists. Wikipedia for example has a list documenting anti-labor murders totaling just over 1100 that we know of. Much of that violence was especially targeted towards black labor organizers.
Fun new things keep coming out.
In both the BLM movement and OWS, leaders and organizers were still meeting untimely deaths and I don’t think the clandestine agencies of government have changed enough, (or at all), to rule them out.
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is ultimately responsible for 1999 bombings, if you count is as a conspiracy theory that is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings
2012 is the end of the world
Now that you mention it, it went pretty downhill from then. Is this the underworld?
i have actually heard a theory that it did end in 2012 but that the infinite life parallel universe thing (forgot what its called but when you just go to a new universe when you die in the current one) was/is true
I certainly haven’t felt alive since.
So this is dark, but… my brother died in 2012 and nothing has felt the same since so… slightly different reasoning but I’ve been saying this for years.
My partner died in 2013 and I feel like the world has gone tits up ever since, in a way he wouldn’t believe. Like if it somehow turned out he’d been in a coma all this time and woke up and I had to catch him up on the last 10 years he’d tell me to fuck off out of here with this bullshit.
Industries are making bad products on purpose to weed out consumers with standards, therefore breeding a crop of consumers that exist only to give their money to them if they ask.
That is exactly why Shein and Temu exist as far as I can tell.
I have no clue what temu even is, like what is it and how is it different than other sites?
Pound shop crap direct from the manufacturer
Yeah, it’s stuff that shitty shops like Woolworths used to sell for £9.99 but it’s £1 with postage included now and straight from the source.
You can get some total rubbish and you can get some generically shit stuff that’s as good as anything else in the shops, there’s great stuff too compared to other options but it’s hard to find.
Quality is generally better for things designed for the Chinese market, they just sell overstock cheap where as the made for export is made to be cheap.
Really quality isn’t a huge issue in manufacturing for a lot of things because everything is well within basic tolerances of the machines, is it’s just a few bits of plastic and a PCB then they’re going to come out the same from anywhere
It’s not different than other sites. It’s exactly the same as Wish or Ali Express. Extremely cheaply made goods that will probably give you lead poisoning with enough use.
It’s basically the same as AliExpress or Wish but with the junk being warehoused in the US instead of China. So you can get your junk in like a week instead of a couple months.
I’m seeing ads for this constantly on YouTube. Might finally go to vanced.
From what I can see it’s the new Wish
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This is like the physical product version of the Nigerian prince scam - have something so shit that the only people who engage with you are idiots.
Is it a conspiracy theory if it’s damn near verifiably true?
Can you clarify a bit?
Do you mean that they are trying to identify, corral, and market heavily to these low-standards consumers so as not to waste their time with the rest (analogous to email scams)?
Or more that they are progressively beating down our collective level of standard so as to make the cheap crap more broadly palatable?
I don’t necessarily disagree with either, but they are pretty different, so just curious which direction you are going.
Trump conspired against the USA.
Which time?
Fact. Not a theory.
in the United States of America you would be innocent until proven guilty. Yet, I believe he is guilty. And, to answer not only your question but also our friends here :
@MountNDoU
@toiletobserver
i search this …2023 Aug. 3, Trump pleaded not guilty to three counts of conspiracy and one count of obstruction, all related to the Jan. 6 insurrection. (many sources easy to find).
Finally, I also believe he should be found guilty in many other such cases.
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Yes ! Thanks for reminding me - - this is so telling.
So very clear for us and yet some conservative sees nothing. What a shame.Because patriotism was always only a tool to let them attack their fellow Americans, when Putin offers a better way of attacking liberals and progressives they’ll happily support Russia.
His son in law took money from them too.
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I agree. I think that he knew that Russia was going to attack Ukraine. (It is weird how trump got involved with Zelensky during that infamous phone call.)
Trump tried to get us (US) out of NATO so bad because then we would be free to use our military power in favor of Russia against Ukraine.
What I wouldn’t do to have the transcripts of his private conversation with Putin that only one other US personnel, the interpreter, was allowed to attend. Just Putin, Trump, and the translator. No one else was allowed in other than Putins translator.
Try to tell me Putin wasn’t giving orders or giving information to Trump that he expected Trump to use in Putins favor…
I suspect that Trump’s taking national classified documents included these documents. Trump classified these with the highest of secret classifications at the time to hide them, and he did not dare leave them for Biden to get his hands on.
If Biden’s administration could still could get these transcripts, they could have been redacted to take out the sensitive parts and been declassified. We are likely to not have all the secret documents that Trump took, still.
Trump being on the ruzzian payroll is not a secret. He’s a puppet.
When he was elected (with the help of russia), he was brougt into a dark smoke filled room that smelled like sigarettes and cheap vodka, with a dosen men was sitting behind their desks. He couldn’t see any faces. No words said before Trump said: “what’s my agenda?”
I do not think that Putin would let Trump have that information. Trump would blab it, and Putin knows that he would.
Convincing Trump that America should realign with Russia to take down China (and Europe) a few notches is more likely. That was obvious when the Republican Party changed their platform concerning Russia back in the 2016 election. Putin still was being fed a bunch of BS by his intelligence agencies and thought that his little green men could again take over another small satellite country. If America had not started helping with training Ukrainians to defend their country, that would have been the outcome. Simply refusing to aid Ukraine would have been enough. Even our intelligence thought that Russia was a major military power at the time.
I can’t see a situation where the US would have actively supported Russia, but it’s 100% believable that our support for Ukraine would be significantly muted if Trump were still president. And this would almost certainly also translate into reduced support from the rest of NATO.
Conspiracies require more than one actor. Who are the others? Otherwise, he’s just a bloated orange painted Cheeto with objectively tiny hands committing crimes.
Not sure if you’ve followed just the “alternate” electors plot, but that alone is pretty conspiratorial.
His lawyers, some of his staff in the white house and kid rock
Probably Roger Stone too
Do your research on the case and the answers will be very obvious.
He was literally indicted (in part) for conspiracy. There are easily findable legal documents that list all the others.
9/11
I believe money is used to replace God so a select few can have unlimited access to the “source”. A false “god” is then permitted to be pushed on the people for further oppression.
The Italian aliens.
I don’t believe Lee Harvey Oswald managed to plan the Kennedy assassination all by himself.
It’s really odd to me that after all these years we don’t have any solid proof. It seems so bizarre and unlikely that he did it by himself but also equally bizarre and unlikely that it happened and there is no proof
The way I see it, if it was a conspiracy it was done in just about the dumbest way possible.
Moving target and you don’t make sure there was someone to concretely place Oswald on the floor at the time of the shooting?
If it’s the CIA/FBI/any of the 3 letter agencies, there were so many better opportunities when JFK was standing still on a stage
Please keep in mind:
The CIA and FBI are not, and have never been, good at their jobs. They do dumb and reckless shit constantly, both in the past and today.
Trust me I’m well aware that a large portion of their power comes from the doublethink of “they’re incompetent fools” and “their power is limitless and they’re all knowing”.
Doesn’t change the fact that even a bumbling idiot knows its easier to shoot a guy that’s standing still than one moving in a car
For examples please see Fidel Castro
It was mafia.
I met a guy who was there, Sam Pate. He was a radio reporter covering the event. He said the storm drains were larger then and the killer went down, took the tunnels, and was on a plane from Love to Chicago by the time Kennedy was pronounced dead at parkland.
Over thirty people making videos it taking pictures in the plaza, every story and statement poured over time and time again in intricate detail… And we’re still no where near a consensus opinion on what happened.
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I think Oswald acted alone and got two shots with one making contact and the other hitting the curb. The kill shot was from a Secret Service agent who fell forward in a moving vehicle.
Oh, the AR-15 got JFK too? Sheeit. /s
Two great books that touch on this: Dr Mary’s monkey and Mary’s mosaic.
Two different people named Mary, but both go deep down the JFK rabbit hole.
