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minus-squareZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up5arrow-down2·5 days agoThat’s the thing that’s hard to determine: if he gave up because of Lieberman or if Lieberman was the cover for backing off. I didn’t think so at the time, but given the track record and actions of the party since then? I kinda do feel Obama wasn’t so all-in for it.
minus-squareMaggoty@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down1·4 days agoNo, it was pretty clear. And if it was a cover then it was the party telling Obama he couldn’t have it. He’d never have proposed it if he didn’t want it on the table.
That’s the thing that’s hard to determine: if he gave up because of Lieberman or if Lieberman was the cover for backing off.
I didn’t think so at the time, but given the track record and actions of the party since then? I kinda do feel Obama wasn’t so all-in for it.
No, it was pretty clear. And if it was a cover then it was the party telling Obama he couldn’t have it. He’d never have proposed it if he didn’t want it on the table.