• humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    1. Categorically, 100%, the US puppeted Ukraine provoked the war, and idealizes a perpetual war on Russia to the last Ukrainian. Complete CIA captured politicians and media disinform you of Russia being in an offensive war. Even if you have a different false opinion, Russia agrees with my statement, and Russia’s opinion is all that is relevant to Russia policy.

    2. It is stupid to wage war on Russia. You don’t win even without strategizing MAD as a victory of least destroyed. Inflation, and a Russian economic shift to support its own existence while casually pretending our own economies are fine.

    3. There are plenty of nuclear scenarios where MAD is a US instigated choice. Nuclear strikes on any US global base, or Air carrier fleet is not a missile headed for US that requires launching 1000s in return.

    4. Cheering on the US escallation, that was not used for any Ukrainian strategic advantage/survival such as a Kursk withdrawal, is cheering for your rulers to suicide you. US economy is on the edge of collapse and cannot survive a nuclear strike, terrorist act, or many more natural disasters. Forcing Russia to destroy US economy/sustainability is not good for you, and you need to remove head from ass in your celebrations.

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      Categorically, 100%, the US puppeted Ukraine provoked the war

      ever thought about why ukraine is fine with being a “us puppet”?

      also how did they start the war? russia anexed krimea in 2014, so they started it

      Even if you have a different false opinion, Russia agrees with my statement

      “everyone disagreeing with me is wrong”

      also: russia investigates russia and finds out russia did nothing wrong

      It is stupid to wage war on Russia

      so if they’re gonna be destroyed anyway why not fight? also: should russia not fight back if let’s say sibiria was anexed by the us? I mean the us got the largest military in the world and the most allies, so why bother?

      Inflation, and a Russian economic shift to support its own existence while casually pretending our own economies are fine.

      the west may be doing badly, but we didn’t have to close the banks

      Nuclear strikes on any US global base, or Air carrier fleet is not a missile headed for US that requires launching 1000s in return.

      ok, what do you want to tell me with that? should russia be allowed to attack any country only because they allow the us to have military installations on their territory?

      Cheering on the US escallation, that was not used for any Ukrainian strategic advantage/survival such as a Kursk withdrawal, is cheering for your rulers to suicide you.

      war is always suicide for the individual, and you can’t really say they do strategic nonsense, because if they did ukraine wouldn’t exist anymore

      US economy is on the edge of collapse

      please elaborate, I’d like to know your basis for that assumption

      Forcing Russia to destroy US economy/sustainability

      you clearly overestimate russia my friend, also before that happens the us would either pull out, or send troops to russia, which would be the end of russia, not the us

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      1. Citation Needed
      2. Who is waging war on Russia? I thought this was a special military operation initiated by Russia?
      3. When did the US threaten to initiate a nuclear strike in response to a non-nuclear event?
      4. 11/10 score for a perfect landing in the mental gymnastics category.
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      Russia agrees with my statement, and Russia’s opinion is all that is relevant to Russia policy.

      So even if Ukraine actually did instigate this war, which I firmly hold is total bullshit, it wouldn’t matter according to your logic because Russia was going to do whatever it wanted anyway. On that basis, either countries stand up to Russia at some point or Russia blackmails its way into owning the entire world.

      Even if you think that Euromaidan was 100% CIA orchestrated and done directly to turn Ukraine against Russia - obviously not necessary since Ukraine was already favouring Europe, that’s what the entire drama was about - Russia didn’t think it was necessary to even see what the outcome was before deciding that Crimea looked awfully nice and undefended. If you think that Ukraine’s trade arrangements count as the opening move of an actual war, I don’t know what to say to you

      It is stupid to wage war on Russia

      Russia has lost plenty of wars. It lost WW1. It lost in Afghanistan when it was the much bigger and stronger Soviet Union. Twice. It lost against Japan. It lost the Crimean War. You know there’s more of history than WW2 and Napoleon, right?

      And either way, it’s not like Russia left Ukraine with much of a choice, is it? Or are we falling back on round two of “Russia gets to blackmail anyone into anything”?