Depends on the bike, I think. Most cars on the road today are well-suited enough for both short and long distance travel. While there are surely some motorcycles that are good for both, there are a much higher proprotion that are better for a specific type of riding, to the relative exclusion of others - whether that be for reasons of ergonomics, curb weight, cargo capacity, handling and suspension comfort, etc.
I dunno. Highway hypnosis is much more likely on well, a highway. Folks will be paying a lot less attention in that scenario. Hell, even you will likely be paying a lot less attention. It’s just how humans work. Monotony breeds complacency. I understand your reasoning for think the motorcycle is safer on the highway than in a heavily traffic urban area. But I do not understand why you think it’s safer than the car on a highway.
It’s very easy to retain a safe zone and avoid bullshit riding on a highway. The worst that happens is people trying to merge into you, but it’s not at all bad because it’s very easy to just keep space alongside or power out ahead. Riding on the highway is very pleasurable. It can be a lot more stressful in the car, especially as traffic thickens.
Speed is a much higher contributor to motorcycle casualties, but getting slammed into on blind corners, intersections, etc on normal roads is where most of the shit happens. Riding of highways in bad traffic can physically/mentally exhaust me because I’m frequently very tense and alert.
I don’t understand why it’s more stressful in a car than a motorcycle, especially as traffic thickens as that would make the situation more dangerous. Like, are you saying you wouldn’t be tense and alert on a motorcycle in bad traffic on a highway?
Because, in a car, it’s a lot harder to get out of shit going down on the highway. Pile ups, blind merges, etc. On a bike it’s easy to give yourself all the space and time to evade and keep going while carnage ensues in the mirrors. Most of the time you just use the shoulder to go around or pull up safely away from it all. Bikes are real easy to do evasive maneuvers on, whereas trying in a car usually results in people spinning or going sideways. You don’t often emergency brake riding on a highway, it’s usually just going to where the cars aren’t fucking up and powering away if needed. Still stop though just in case something had happened or need to share helmet cam footage.
In my country, the majority of motorcycle casualties not involving the rider being at fault, are intersections and motorists failing to give way. Almost all over highway speed are single-vehicle, so just the motorcyclist likely being reckless/speeding.
You keep saying the problematic times for motorcycles are the same problematic times for cars. I mean, there’s still no statistic to even back your claim other than a feeling plus a really overly defined and restrictive scenario that doesn’t exist in the real world. All highways have merges. And cars can just slam into a motorcycle without warning if they don’t see them. It’s one of the main causes of accidents.
Really depends for a motorcycle. I’d rather one over long distance highway than a car, but rather a car over short distance urban routes.
I may just be dumb.
But are you trying to say, you’d rather use a motorcycle for long distance and a car for short distance?
As someone who rides, that’s like the super opposite of what I do.
On an ADV? Hell yeah. On a street-sports? Hell no.
Depends on the bike, I think. Most cars on the road today are well-suited enough for both short and long distance travel. While there are surely some motorcycles that are good for both, there are a much higher proprotion that are better for a specific type of riding, to the relative exclusion of others - whether that be for reasons of ergonomics, curb weight, cargo capacity, handling and suspension comfort, etc.
I think the number of bikes you’d want and be comfortable on taking long distance is a hand full.
Where as cars you would not want for long distance are a hand full.
Realistically the only rational reason to take a bike long distances is because you want to and enjoy it. Outside of that it’s just downsides.
I dunno. Highway hypnosis is much more likely on well, a highway. Folks will be paying a lot less attention in that scenario. Hell, even you will likely be paying a lot less attention. It’s just how humans work. Monotony breeds complacency. I understand your reasoning for think the motorcycle is safer on the highway than in a heavily traffic urban area. But I do not understand why you think it’s safer than the car on a highway.
It’s very easy to retain a safe zone and avoid bullshit riding on a highway. The worst that happens is people trying to merge into you, but it’s not at all bad because it’s very easy to just keep space alongside or power out ahead. Riding on the highway is very pleasurable. It can be a lot more stressful in the car, especially as traffic thickens.
Speed is a much higher contributor to motorcycle casualties, but getting slammed into on blind corners, intersections, etc on normal roads is where most of the shit happens. Riding of highways in bad traffic can physically/mentally exhaust me because I’m frequently very tense and alert.
I don’t understand why it’s more stressful in a car than a motorcycle, especially as traffic thickens as that would make the situation more dangerous. Like, are you saying you wouldn’t be tense and alert on a motorcycle in bad traffic on a highway?
Because, in a car, it’s a lot harder to get out of shit going down on the highway. Pile ups, blind merges, etc. On a bike it’s easy to give yourself all the space and time to evade and keep going while carnage ensues in the mirrors. Most of the time you just use the shoulder to go around or pull up safely away from it all. Bikes are real easy to do evasive maneuvers on, whereas trying in a car usually results in people spinning or going sideways. You don’t often emergency brake riding on a highway, it’s usually just going to where the cars aren’t fucking up and powering away if needed. Still stop though just in case something had happened or need to share helmet cam footage.
In my country, the majority of motorcycle casualties not involving the rider being at fault, are intersections and motorists failing to give way. Almost all over highway speed are single-vehicle, so just the motorcyclist likely being reckless/speeding.
You keep saying the problematic times for motorcycles are the same problematic times for cars. I mean, there’s still no statistic to even back your claim other than a feeling plus a really overly defined and restrictive scenario that doesn’t exist in the real world. All highways have merges. And cars can just slam into a motorcycle without warning if they don’t see them. It’s one of the main causes of accidents.
Especially compared against new cars with adaptive cruise that can and will stop automatically.