I think there’s a pretty big difference between an anonymous website that lets the hateful and the edgy post whatever awful words they want, and the top down corruption of a giant established algorithm driven site used for communication around the world.
There isn’t much a difference between the user base of one Nazi forum like 4chan and another Nazi forum like twitter. Just because you like one and dislike the other doesn’t mean they’re both shit sites with a user base full of Nazi scum
Moderation and intent are big parts of the difference too.
I don’t use 4chan but I gather that it’s a wild little corner of the internet where you can put whatever crazy shit you wish on a website that others will read, knowing what they signed up for. Basically anything goes so you get all types. You might even call it free speech absolutism.
But Twitter is actively moderated and algorithm tuned to favor a certain flavor of bias and, especially given the players involved, propaganda.
One is neutrality even in the face of humanity’s worst, and the other is actively siding with and promoting humanity’s worst.
I’m sorry if I don’t see Nazis as human beings. That usually happens when they try to kill me and everyone that looks like me. Maybe you could hang out with a bunch of taliban, ISIS, and Nazi members and befriend them and see the goodness in them.
Sure, and there are plenty of good people still on Twitter/X. Don’t label people based on sites they use or people they affiliate with, label them based on their actual actions, otherwise you’ll be more wrong than right.
If you lay down with dogs, don’t complain when you get fleas. I will label those people who use those sites as racist Nazi incel losers because that’s how I view them for posting on those vile site.
You could say the thing about Twitter. But everyone knows it’s a racist Nazi infested shit hole. 4chan is no different.
I think there’s a pretty big difference between an anonymous website that lets the hateful and the edgy post whatever awful words they want, and the top down corruption of a giant established algorithm driven site used for communication around the world.
There isn’t much a difference between the user base of one Nazi forum like 4chan and another Nazi forum like twitter. Just because you like one and dislike the other doesn’t mean they’re both shit sites with a user base full of Nazi scum
So Lemmy is just one big Tanki-infested shithole and everyone posting here deserves to be bullied, including you?
Moderation and intent are big parts of the difference too.
I don’t use 4chan but I gather that it’s a wild little corner of the internet where you can put whatever crazy shit you wish on a website that others will read, knowing what they signed up for. Basically anything goes so you get all types. You might even call it free speech absolutism.
But Twitter is actively moderated and algorithm tuned to favor a certain flavor of bias and, especially given the players involved, propaganda.
One is neutrality even in the face of humanity’s worst, and the other is actively siding with and promoting humanity’s worst.
If you think 4chan is neutral and isn’t being manipulated with propaganda then I have a bridge to sell you.
I think you should be banned from lemmy
Lol because I disagree with you
No. Because you don’t see some people as human beings.
I’m sorry if I don’t see Nazis as human beings. That usually happens when they try to kill me and everyone that looks like me. Maybe you could hang out with a bunch of taliban, ISIS, and Nazi members and befriend them and see the goodness in them.
Actually maybe I was a bit too harsh. Well whatever.
Then infest it with friendship and ponies.
Dude at least come up with a better line. Try again, this time with gusto.
By that metric every website is a Nazi shithole
Sure, and there are plenty of good people still on Twitter/X. Don’t label people based on sites they use or people they affiliate with, label them based on their actual actions, otherwise you’ll be more wrong than right.
If you lay down with dogs, don’t complain when you get fleas. I will label those people who use those sites as racist Nazi incel losers because that’s how I view them for posting on those vile site.
I can tell we wouldn’t get along. Have a wonderful day.
You as well
this guy is so close to realizing that just because a few assholes hang out somewhere doesn’t mean the entire space is a toxic shithole
Nah, I’d say far from close
By his standards, he’s also posting on a Nazi shit hole site
Which also implies that ey is a Nazi, too, by the same logic.