!piracy@lemmy.ml has also been blocked from lemmy.world.
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Lemmy.world has released an official response.
To be honest, it’s not a huge deal. The copyright cartel can easily send dmca requests to your isp just for having text guidelines. Not everyone has the bandwidth or energy to deal with stuff like that.
I just wish this wasn’t done at the request of a transphobic racist who just did it to get back at is for getting banned for making transphobic and racist communities in this instance.
Keep it up db0, a lot of us across the fediverse appreciate what you’ve built!
So beehaw was right whey they defederated from .world, there is shadiness there…
PS: this is one of the best communities in the fediverse, good job.
There’s nothing shady here, just kneejerk and protectionist.
Beehaw defederated because they they decided they didn’t want to actually moderate their communities. Easier to just screen everyone before letting them join, to weed out people they may potentially disagree with. Ostensibly to filter out hate but only a fool thinks it stops there.
Beehaw’s reasons for defederation were completely unrelated to what’s happening now. They didn’t want the general public to have access to their “safe” community.
there’s more to “the general public” besides 2 instances. beehaw defederated from .world and sijw because the mod tooling to handle a huge influx of people isn’t ready, and it still isn’t ready. (and the rest of their defederations are an off the shelf mastodon blocklist import which all instances should do imo and a few explicitly unmoderated instances. oh and porn i think)
beehaw federates just fine with the instance i’m on, for example.
if they wanted to defederate completely, lemmy does support allowlist federation, and i’m pretty sure their admins know about it.
Don’t need lemmy world anyways. This is the most based instance on the entire fediverse. Their loss.
One of the most popular instance. This is why federation is necessary and people should create accounts in different servers instead of pulling everyone to one server calling it tge “official” or “main” server
At least they blocked a community and not the entire instance. This is how these things should be handled, imo
Yeah, they fell for the fucking troll. Excuse my french.
Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They’re down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn’t fit their narrow, sanitized world views. It’s also one of the most recommended Lemmy’s with more new users going there than anywhere else. I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain. Especially if this domain makes as many boneheaded decisions as lemmy.world
I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain.
I agree, but 50% is still better than 100%. I definitely appreciate that I’m reading about this while being totally unaffected personally rather than just disappearing entirely like what happens with a banned subreddit.
We badly need Lemmy clients that can merge instances even if they’re defederated, as well as the other way around, filter out entire instances even if your instance won’t defederate from them. Letting instance owners dictate what you can or cannot see is not the way.
There are clients that will do the former (eg. Liftoff) but I’m not aware of any that will do the latter. I don’t understand why, it can’t be that hard to filter users and communities by instance.
I wanna say connect could do it for a while now. It’ll certainly come to many clients
I believe Memmy has a filter for communities and instances.
it does, but its broken. the list resets every time you close the app. At least on the full release current build
Yep, I agree. Yet another reason I just spun up my own instance and use that.
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Yes one in the same. Thought about moving the forum to lemmy but there’s so much history there
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I can’t believe EverQuest is still around, lol. Blows my mind
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I’m curious as to what you’d need(other than a server) to spin oneupp
Some time and tinkering.
It’s quite straightforward (especially if you don’t use nginx or need email) to use the docker install.
So you need a Linux box (IDK about windows) a fix IP with a port routed to your machine and some free time. Oh yeah a domain name pointing to said IP.
That’s good to know, thanks! Would love to try that some day
It’s definitely achievable and I’d encourage anyone to play around with self hosting.
The main thing to acknowledge before getting started is that it’s an ongoing commitment, like a puppy. Getting it to work initially is the easy part, you can follow a guide and have something working in a few hours of effort. Running in to problems later on is the tricky part, automated backups and upgrades et cetera, something needs a re-start, things just stop working for some reason.
Ah yeah, I can imagine it’s not a one and done thing, you’d have to do a lot of support with your server, can see it being a massive time sink
100% spot on. I got called all sorts of names for pointing this out, but maybe my own fault for pointing it out on one of their posts! 😅
I started on lemmy.world because it was the most popular server at the time and I didn’t really understand how the fediverse worked. I spent the first month sort of just learning to stop trying to think like I was on reddit. The federation feels to me like pirate TV/ ham radio, people broadcasting their visions and worldviews while rebroadcasting other stations/nodes. Each instance, has it’s own “feel”. I see the entire instance I’m on as a greater solarpunk community, which is filled with smaller, related communities of people all sharing their own interests.
This is a memory of how the Internet was first envisioned by many people, before the corporate takeover. I am interested in FOSS, I am interested in “piracy”, I am interested in any exchange of knowledge that helps us work together, spread skills, and empower communities, both virtual and on the ground.
But all that aside, lemmy.world is just too unreliable for it to be my entrypoint into the fediverse. Which is why I looked around and found a place that feels more in line with my own sense of hopefulness for the future.
Let the garbage go there
A lot of people register there initially to get their feet wet and move on to another instance later for these reasons. At least we have subscriptions/blocks transferring tools now.
I did it the moment they decided not to defederate from Meta. I don’t like admins who can’t take decisive actions to protect their users (and apparently seem to bend their knees to any big corpo out there)
That sounds like a contradictory stance
I’m fairly new, what are the tools?
I also used LASIM but I remember someone else mentioning another tool that could do multiple accts at once. check out this list for it and more tools.
This is the tool I used: Lemmy Account Settings Instance Migrator
step 1 - go to reddit
step 2 - ?
step 3 - profit
unfortunately i don’t know the specific answer, but you might find something interesting here:
or here:
I would like to move to a different fediverse please.
Yep. I started there, found it down all the time and then moved on.
This is what I did.
They should have shut down registrations a long time before they gained such a majority of users.
They stand behind the lie that “if we didn’t let people in, they wouldn’t know where to go”… as if it’s so hard to create a new registration page that re-routes people to other instances.
I’ll never understand the selfishness of people like that. They know they’re actively hurting all of lemmy, but they want to keep all the users to themselves. This thing only works if it’s a collection of smaller instances.
I think lemmy.world gather the kind of redditors that like sanitized world views, the power of decentralization makes us choose an instance without those hot garbaje takes as lemmy.world.
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Bungiefan_ak appears to have literally two hobbies, and they’re being anti-piracy and actively a fascist.
Funny how that works out.
same account name (different instance) is also posting transphobia on https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nomoretroons
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Its been deleted now, but that person has successfully trolled every lemmy.world user and is obviously full of hate and intolerance.
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The goal is to get people reactionary about it so it’s good to recognize and completely ignore them, not even a downvote.
@Bungiefan_ak@lemm.ee joined 8 hours ago.
@tron @Madbrad200 >Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They’re down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn’t fit their narrow, sanitized world views.
welcome to the fedi, first day here? :guraKekw:
I just made an account to discover that we’re blocked. Wtf lol, this is my first post.
I was on Lemmy World too, but lately they’ve started to restrict more and more. Restricting access to piracy was my limit
This feels like an obvious bullshit cop-out reason to defederate against a specific community that they don’t like for whatever silly reason they can’t reveal to the public.
Never have I seen an actual link to content survive very long on lemmy.ml or dbzer0.com. Just like the good old /r/Piracy we discuss piracy, but we do not directly facilitate it.
Someone please slap the back of their heads repeatedly and aggressively with these facts. This excuse is disingenuous as hell.
If you are a user of lemmy.world; RUN. NOW! Find a new instance. Switch away from them before they reach terminal enshitification velocity.
I guess, someone with a copyright background came knocking at their door. It’s one thing to defend against a lawsuit if you are a big for-profit company with a well-funded law department and a nice financial buffer. But it’s an entirely different thing if you are hosting a non-profit platform with your own money because you are a nice guy.
Tbh, I am negatively surprised how many people don’t understand that the person hosting a lemmy instance is someone who does it as a hobby and not a big corporation.
The good thing about Lemmy: if you don’t like an instance or it’s admin, you can just host one yourself. You just need a Pi or an old laptop and a few hours of time. Did you try that?
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Or music.
Better off renting it so I can get some publicities mixed in in the list … :-/
enshitification
You’re already misusing our cool new word. Cut it out.
No. It is enshitification. Do not @ me.
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Have you read the definition? It’s a platform reducing the quality of services to increase profit. Nothing about this is to increase profit.
You are 120% wrong and it IS enshitification.
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If you are 200% wrong, are you right?
I am using the actual definition. Saying you are x percent wrong isn’t an arguement. You’re just making yourself look bad.
This is Doctorow’s made up word.
All words are made up
The enshittification of the word enshittification has started
en-enshittification?
re-enshittification?
ren-shittification?
enshitificaception
Too many people don’t know what it actually means.
Was to lazy to change instances even though .world was always down. Actively censoring made me finally pull the plug. Thanks for helping me out I guess
Made the switch from lemmy.world the other day due to this. Not necessarily because of who they defederated/blocked, but because this happens with little/no consultation or communication with the user base. The frequency of it became frustrating; who knows what other community/instance will be blocked on a whim next?
I appreciate that the LW admins do this as a hobby in their free time, but things like this could be approached in a better way, or at the very least with better communication. I found out about this via a post in /c/mildlyinfuriating, which in itself was mildly infuriating lol.
Migrated to this instance, and I can choose via Connect which instances or communities I want to see. Should have done this sooner.
This is ultimately why I decided to roll my own instance. I’m keeping my backup here though in case I mess something up, but full control is nice to have.
Self-Host Gang. Instances with whitelist mode suck tho.
What is that? Please let me know before I dive in head first on the self hosted wave
Whitelist mode? Instances that only federate with certain instances, and nobody else. Blacklist mode is the opposite: Instances that federate with everyone except certain instances.
Yeah that got me pretty hard, I thought whitelist was just adding instances, but alas it banned any other instance. Weird choice IMO.
Worked around it (I think) by making a user and have that user sub to communities, but being able to include a whole instance would have been great.
Agreed. I haven’t come across any instances I care to participate in that have that enabled though.
did they give a reason for that?
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Which is fine, their server their rule.
Well, that’s interesting. Good thing I have an alts on different instances
I don’t hold it against them. They have their hands full at the moment with DDOS attacks. The admins are barely able to keep the place running. The beauty of federation is that we can pick and choose where to sail from.
And yet they insist on keeping registrations open and tarnishing the lemmy name with their shit uptime and terrible, terrible decisions like this. Fuck them.
Based Lemmy.zip admin above 🙏
What if a competitor, say a hypothetical Lemmy.7z or Lemmy.rar were to open, what would their response be?
I was wondering what happened. Noticed this community disappear from my lemmy world subscriptions. Am posting this from my kbin.
Sounds like we’re going to need an instance to be hosted outside of the reach of US copywrong law
Hi Lemm.ee. Bye lemmy.world.
There’s also !piracy@lemmy.ml ?
