• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    For instance we were talking about Ukraine, they were saying Trump would end the war immediately. I said yes by withholding support so Ukraine is forced to make concessions to Russia

    If Pete Hegseth is any indication, your both wrong. He seems happy to go to war with everyone.

    Past that, Trump’s “secret plan to end the war” sounds a bit like Nixon’s pledge in '68. Or Obama’s promise to leave Iraq in '08, for that matter. Either way, I wouldn’t hold your breath.

    I used to think it was difference of opinion but they truly are just completely uninformed

    Garbage in, garbage out. The US media is so thick with propaganda, all any of us can do is choke on it. No such thing as an informed opinion when news media is just Op-Eds on the one end and Ads on the other.

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      The US media is so thick with propaganda, all any of us can do is choke on it. No such thing as an informed opinion when news media is just Op-Eds on the one end and Ads on the other.

      that’s exactly what the worst ones want you to think. as soon as you resign yourself to the idea that one truth is as good as another you’ll believe any old bullshit.

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        as soon as you resign yourself to the idea that one truth is as good as another

        That’s not what I’m saying at all.

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          58 minutes ago

          okay. as soon as you resign yourself to the exact ideas as you wrote them in your original post, you’ll believe any old bullshit.