• theblueredditrefugee@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      2 days ago

      The English word “Sherbert” and the bangla word “Sharbat” derive from a common linguistic ancestor from before the indo-european split. One word refers to flavored ice, and another refers to a cold, sweet drink.

      Odds are, neither one is the same as the original proto-indo-european refreshment that they derived from. When a people goes to a new place, they take their tastes with them and apply them to what’s available to them there.

      Words, too, change meaning over time. It’s just the way things go. Nothing stays the same. Cultures drift, and people evolve.

      What I call a biscuit may be closer to what you call a scone, and white gravy may be an abomination to your eyes, but it is just as cherished to me as Yorkshire pudding and brown gravy likely is to you.

      And hell, y’all’s empire fell to pieces long ago. The time is coming where y’all’re gonna have to start engaging with cultures other than y’all’s own as equals instead of with that insufferable smug sense of superiority for once. Best start practicing now

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          11 hours ago

          Let me be absolutely clear.

          Y’ALL classist assholes can go fuck y’all’s selves. Ain’t nobody has no right to decide what words mean what, no matter how many dictionary companies y’all buy out. Language has no fecking rules. None. It’s completely artificial and it evolves over time, but y’all motherfuckers can’t be fecked to learn an ounce of linguistics.

          Go right to hell, dipshit.

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        And hell, y’all’s empire fell to pieces long ago. The time is coming where y’all’re gonna have to start engaging with cultures other than y’all’s own as equals instead of with that insufferable smug sense of superiority for once. Best start practicing now

        I wouldn’t say America’s ‘empire’ has fallen to pieces just yet but the rest of your comment is good advice for Americans.

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          10 hours ago

          Oh, the other Americans are gonna have to face the music eventually too. I just never had any issue with foreign cultures to begin with. I was the kind of kid who was on web forums in the early aughts saying “don’t judge the guy for his grammar, he might not be a native speaker, you don’t know that”. And that was before I learned of the concept of a dialect. So I’m just overall tired of dealing with this sort of childish “my culture good their culture bad” thinking that nobody seems to have grown out of.

          But, you know, I have a very special beef with englishmen, because every time I was like “oh hey have you heard of biscuits and gravy” they’d be like “no wonder Americans are so fat” immediately, without second thought, and refuse to listen to the clarification about what a biscuit is (this was before I knew a British scone was basically an American biscuit but richer and sweet).

          And, I mean, it’s all superficial and silly until you remember what happens when someone dares to fiddle with European food and make it their own. Masala Chai, Vietnamese Banh Mi, Philipino Spaghetti, all these innovations were met with by violence from the colonizers. Couldn’t let people just enjoy their own things.

          But it’s gonna be different this time. When America’s empire falls, there will be no western power to take its place. The era of global western hegemony is finally coming to an end.

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        One word refers to flavored ice, and another refers to a cold, sweet drink.

        Neither of those are Sherbert

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        They love engaging with the French and copying their food and language to seem sophisticated.