I get 11 PTO days this year. That includes sick days and vacation days. I love my job and company, but the time off sucks. I can go over that if I need to take care of myself, but it still sucks
I mean, they pay for our health insurance, give hefty bonuses each quarter, and seem to genuinely care. The company is only 13 people, though, so we can’t really handle being down people all the time. Like I get their reasoning, and I can take more time off than that, but it’ll just be unpaid and people may get a lil pissed.
I hate to point this out but if they can afford hefty bonuses for you, the owner is pocketing the full income of the additional 14th employee that should be there for coverage.
I mean that’s obvious. That’s just how company owners are. This company respects me more than any other place I’ve worked. I got a 12% raise last year and honestly don’t think I deserved it. My really good health/dental/eye insurance is paid for by the company, as well as some life insurance and accident insurance. I’m treated exceptionally well, can work from home if I need to, I’m inspired to grow and learn, and I feel genuinely appreciated. I focus on the good things instead of the obvious capitalistic greed because it’d wreck me emotionally if I didn’t, ya know? I honestly love my company and I hope it does become toxic as it grows.
You missed my point. The company really can handle people being down a person all the time, there is enough budget for that, they are choosing not to. I don’t mean to say you should hate your job, in fact im glad there are lucky few that do. That being said, you continuously list the most basic requirements for living as if they’re doing something truly special for you (Insurance), or what is essentially a 5% raise + adjusting for the 7% inflation that happened throughout the year. I’m glad you’re in a position to only look at the positive things, but the positives are WfH (again, a basic right), learn and grow, and feel appreciated. And remember, you only need to convince 5 others to unionize for actual PtO.
Ohhh I see. I mean, I never expect basic shit out of employers because work in the US fucking sucks. As for the short staffed budget thing, I don’t really know how to respond. You’re totally right, and I can only hope for that aspect to change.
Meanwhile, here in Denmark any manager I’ve ever had insists that I take sick day when I’m sick. Not for my sake, for the company.
And i have virtually unlimited sick days, I don’t loose any money or vacation days by taking sick leave.
Also, if the place is understaffed because just one person is on sick leave, that’s a management decision. Why would anyone who cares about you, be pissed at you for acting sick while being sick…
I mean they don’t get actually pissed, it just inconveniences others but they understand that people get sick. I try to just work from home if I can if I’m sick. We plan on hiring more people when we move to our bigger office in the spring, so hopefully we won’t be short staffed again.
Dang that sucks, I guess I’m one of the lucky Americans that has decent (for American standards) time off options. This year I’ll get about 17 days paid time off and about 17 days unpaid time off
I work in IT, at a small MSP that’s growing insanely fast, so I get why they have the time off stuff they do. I’m not prohibited from taking off more than 11 days, but excessive time off unpaid is frowned upon because even being down one tech can fuck over everyone else. Hopefully that changes when we start hiring new people when we move offices in the spring.
You’re literally foregoing pay for time off so that the MSP owner can have a bigger paycheck.
You should be thinking about this each and every time you look at what you make for what you do. All they did was get an agreement signed (probably) and you’re doing a giant portion of the work. Their cut should be proportionally miniscule for the labor given… but instead I can promise that for every buck you make them with billable hours you are probably making 25 cents or less… and then they have the flat fee contract on top of it that they are pocketing as well.
I mean that’s 100% how for profit companies are unfortunately. I make enough to be comfortable and I’m respected and treated fairly compared to every other place I’ve worked. I’m not unhappy here, yet. And I hope I won’t ever become unhappy here, but company growth can change people. I’m out at the first bit of toxicity. Well toxicity that isn’t inherent to for profit shit. If that makes sense. Right now, they’re good people compared to every employer I’ve had and everyone I talk to about this place tells me to stay because this place is genuinely good. I just hope that the promotion they’re hinting at giving me next year isn’t just something they’re waving over my head.
I get 11 PTO days this year. That includes sick days and vacation days. I love my job and company, but the time off sucks. I can go over that if I need to take care of myself, but it still sucks
Ouch. I give my nanny more time off than that. You may love your job and company but just remember that they do not care about you or your coworkers.
I mean, they pay for our health insurance, give hefty bonuses each quarter, and seem to genuinely care. The company is only 13 people, though, so we can’t really handle being down people all the time. Like I get their reasoning, and I can take more time off than that, but it’ll just be unpaid and people may get a lil pissed.
I hate to point this out but if they can afford hefty bonuses for you, the owner is pocketing the full income of the additional 14th employee that should be there for coverage.
I mean that’s obvious. That’s just how company owners are. This company respects me more than any other place I’ve worked. I got a 12% raise last year and honestly don’t think I deserved it. My really good health/dental/eye insurance is paid for by the company, as well as some life insurance and accident insurance. I’m treated exceptionally well, can work from home if I need to, I’m inspired to grow and learn, and I feel genuinely appreciated. I focus on the good things instead of the obvious capitalistic greed because it’d wreck me emotionally if I didn’t, ya know? I honestly love my company and I hope it does become toxic as it grows.
You missed my point. The company really can handle people being down a person all the time, there is enough budget for that, they are choosing not to. I don’t mean to say you should hate your job, in fact im glad there are lucky few that do. That being said, you continuously list the most basic requirements for living as if they’re doing something truly special for you (Insurance), or what is essentially a 5% raise + adjusting for the 7% inflation that happened throughout the year. I’m glad you’re in a position to only look at the positive things, but the positives are WfH (again, a basic right), learn and grow, and feel appreciated. And remember, you only need to convince 5 others to unionize for actual PtO.
Ohhh I see. I mean, I never expect basic shit out of employers because work in the US fucking sucks. As for the short staffed budget thing, I don’t really know how to respond. You’re totally right, and I can only hope for that aspect to change.
You mean that?
Meanwhile, here in Denmark any manager I’ve ever had insists that I take sick day when I’m sick. Not for my sake, for the company.
And i have virtually unlimited sick days, I don’t loose any money or vacation days by taking sick leave.
Also, if the place is understaffed because just one person is on sick leave, that’s a management decision. Why would anyone who cares about you, be pissed at you for acting sick while being sick…
I mean they don’t get actually pissed, it just inconveniences others but they understand that people get sick. I try to just work from home if I can if I’m sick. We plan on hiring more people when we move to our bigger office in the spring, so hopefully we won’t be short staffed again.
Dang that sucks, I guess I’m one of the lucky Americans that has decent (for American standards) time off options. This year I’ll get about 17 days paid time off and about 17 days unpaid time off
I work in IT, at a small MSP that’s growing insanely fast, so I get why they have the time off stuff they do. I’m not prohibited from taking off more than 11 days, but excessive time off unpaid is frowned upon because even being down one tech can fuck over everyone else. Hopefully that changes when we start hiring new people when we move offices in the spring.
You’re literally foregoing pay for time off so that the MSP owner can have a bigger paycheck.
You should be thinking about this each and every time you look at what you make for what you do. All they did was get an agreement signed (probably) and you’re doing a giant portion of the work. Their cut should be proportionally miniscule for the labor given… but instead I can promise that for every buck you make them with billable hours you are probably making 25 cents or less… and then they have the flat fee contract on top of it that they are pocketing as well.
I mean that’s 100% how for profit companies are unfortunately. I make enough to be comfortable and I’m respected and treated fairly compared to every other place I’ve worked. I’m not unhappy here, yet. And I hope I won’t ever become unhappy here, but company growth can change people. I’m out at the first bit of toxicity. Well toxicity that isn’t inherent to for profit shit. If that makes sense. Right now, they’re good people compared to every employer I’ve had and everyone I talk to about this place tells me to stay because this place is genuinely good. I just hope that the promotion they’re hinting at giving me next year isn’t just something they’re waving over my head.