One of the reasons I dont like local moderators being perpetually in charge of some communities. We should have a way to vote out unwanted mods. Or at least have term limits.
On the flip side, if I create a community for some really niche thing that I want to discuss with others, I don’t want an irrational mob of users kicking me out of my own community that I worked to grow.
Mob mentality on social media is also a real problem. People see downvotes and continue to down vote a comment without even reading the whole thing, automatically assuming a user must be an asshole if everyone else downvotes them. Oftentimes, it’s just something people don’t want to hear, but is true.
I don’t want an irrational mob of users kicking me out of my own community that I worked to grow.
Without the “irrational mob of users,” wouldn’t the community just be you, and thus… not a community?
Isn’t that missing the entire point? “It’s my community I built it.”
So the people who exist in the community and partake in it aren’t part of it? Only you are because you spearheaded it? When you die they will shut it down in reverence for what has been lost, like the NBA retires numbers?
Then why even give a shit and start one and put unpaid hours into it? I don’t do any work without an end product to show for it. The users are just casually posting media. The mod has to sit there all day and make sure the community doesn’t turn into a shit show.
I don’t do any work without an end product to show for it.
Then you honestly don’t understand what a community is or why you would want to be involved with it. Sadly this attitude seems to be everywhere these days.
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit.
A community isn’t just for you.
We’re literally in the Linuxmemes community where we’re supposed to be part of an Open Source community so this attitude fucking baffles me.
If I write code that gets overwritten by better code, is it really worth it to bitch about how I have nothing to show for it now? Or should I be happy that someone more competent than me made the community better for everyone, including me?
I get that. But I’m from the old school. In the 90s and early 2000s, if you paid for server space, bandwidth, and set up a forum for multiple users, nobody questioned whether it was yours or not and your ability to do whatever you want with it. Users who didn’t like it moved on or started their own.
You don’t own a community on another instance, it’s not even an ambiguous question, you can make one and be the main or only mod. But you do so with the understanding that the actual instance admins can remove you as a mod at any time.
You can still have that level of ownership with your own Lemmy instance, if you wish
This entire conversation is solving a problem that’s already been mostly solved.
If you don’t like an existing community, whether because of the mods or whatever, you just create a new one. This was common on Reddit (e.g. GameOfThrones vs FreeFolk vs ASOIAF), and extends further. If you don’t like !Linux@lemmy.world, you can create !Linux@lemmy.ml, @programming.dev, @lemm.ee, or hundreds of others.
The community will respond accordingly. If you run a better ship, people will find it and respond accordingly. The only real hurdle is fighting inertia. The mods of the existing community will probably not take kindly to anyone mentioning any alternatives.
Sure everyone can make their own, except that there is a big threshold to actually get people moving. So unless something really but and bad happens, nobody cares and just stays. See Reddit -> Lemmy and how that did not happen apart of a small group of people.
One of the reasons I dont like local moderators being perpetually in charge of some communities. We should have a way to vote out unwanted mods. Or at least have term limits.
On the flip side, if I create a community for some really niche thing that I want to discuss with others, I don’t want an irrational mob of users kicking me out of my own community that I worked to grow.
Mob mentality on social media is also a real problem. People see downvotes and continue to down vote a comment without even reading the whole thing, automatically assuming a user must be an asshole if everyone else downvotes them. Oftentimes, it’s just something people don’t want to hear, but is true.
Without the “irrational mob of users,” wouldn’t the community just be you, and thus… not a community?
Isn’t that missing the entire point? “It’s my community I built it.”
So the people who exist in the community and partake in it aren’t part of it? Only you are because you spearheaded it? When you die they will shut it down in reverence for what has been lost, like the NBA retires numbers?
Then why even give a shit and start one and put unpaid hours into it? I don’t do any work without an end product to show for it. The users are just casually posting media. The mod has to sit there all day and make sure the community doesn’t turn into a shit show.
Then you honestly don’t understand what a community is or why you would want to be involved with it. Sadly this attitude seems to be everywhere these days.
A community isn’t just for you.
We’re literally in the Linuxmemes community where we’re supposed to be part of an Open Source community so this attitude fucking baffles me.
If I write code that gets overwritten by better code, is it really worth it to bitch about how I have nothing to show for it now? Or should I be happy that someone more competent than me made the community better for everyone, including me?
I get that. But I’m from the old school. In the 90s and early 2000s, if you paid for server space, bandwidth, and set up a forum for multiple users, nobody questioned whether it was yours or not and your ability to do whatever you want with it. Users who didn’t like it moved on or started their own.
You don’t own a community on another instance, it’s not even an ambiguous question, you can make one and be the main or only mod. But you do so with the understanding that the actual instance admins can remove you as a mod at any time.
You can still have that level of ownership with your own Lemmy instance, if you wish
Yup. I realize that. If the admin above me says to go fuck myself, I won’t hesitate to leave for another instance.
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The mayor doesn’t own the town
At least the ones that do are the villains in those stories
This entire conversation is solving a problem that’s already been mostly solved.
If you don’t like an existing community, whether because of the mods or whatever, you just create a new one. This was common on Reddit (e.g. GameOfThrones vs FreeFolk vs ASOIAF), and extends further. If you don’t like !Linux@lemmy.world, you can create !Linux@lemmy.ml, @programming.dev, @lemm.ee, or hundreds of others.
The community will respond accordingly. If you run a better ship, people will find it and respond accordingly. The only real hurdle is fighting inertia. The mods of the existing community will probably not take kindly to anyone mentioning any alternatives.
I personally think the solution above will make people more confused. I’m already lost posting to the 5x Linux communities.
Sure everyone can make their own, except that there is a big threshold to actually get people moving. So unless something really but and bad happens, nobody cares and just stays. See Reddit -> Lemmy and how that did not happen apart of a small group of people.
Just create a new community