• earphone843@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    A lot of those businesses still need to exist for society to function. They could be restructured into non-profits, but they’ll still exist.

    There will always be a need for jobs that people aren’t going to just do for the hell of it. No one enjoys breaking their back harvesting crops or digging ditches.

    I’m not saying the current system is any good, but the idea of no one having to work if they don’t want to is not obtainable without some serious advances in robotics.

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        3 days ago

        Where’s that money going to come from?

        The point of UBI isn’t to allow anyone to not work if they don’t want to. It’s so that everyone can live securely while still contributing to keeping society running, and allow those who can’t work to live without worry about survival.

        You can’t have UBI without workers. It’s still working to survive, just with a massive safety net.

        • rockerface 🇺🇦@lemm.ee
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          3 days ago

          From net worth of all millionaires and billionaires, where it’s not currently being used for anything worthwhile.

          UBI is only the first step towards actual redistribution of wealth

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            3 days ago

            That networth isn’t cash on hand. It’s comprised of assets that can’t be instantly converted into cash.

            And like the other person said, it’s not nearly enough for UBI.

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      3 days ago

      I specifically mean those companies that do not directly add to the jobs that “need” to be done.

      My feeling is that more people work bullshit jobs because they pay better than e.g. harvesting crops or driving a bus.

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        2 days ago

        Those are low requirement jobs

        Almost every body able citizen with a license can drive

        Almost every body abled citizen can harvest a crop

        Not EVERYONE wants to do it, so they invest time and money into themselves to get a skill level that will allow them to get a job in something else not related to the thing they don’t like

        But that was in the old days or with low ROI enterprises

        Now most modern agriculture is done with automation, gps tracking and smart systems

        Your average crop picker doesn’t matter anymore

        They’d need to be more knowledgeable to not only be in a new harvester cabin, but understand the training that comes with it

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        3 days ago

        They work bullshit jobs because harvesting crops and driving a bus are shitty jobs that basically no one wants to do.

        I used to work those shitty jobs, and pay wasn’t the issue