incompetent half-assing is rarely this morally righteous of an act too, since your one act of barely-competent-enough incompetence is transmuted into endless incompetence by becoming training data/qc feedback

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      Do you really trust ‘smart’ vehicles that get confused when they see emergency vehicles, or just flashing lights in general?

      Remember, they’re using us as AI training mules, and every time someone gives it false information, it confuses the AI, which just makes modern vehicles more unpredictable.

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        if you haven’t noticed yet, we want these “smart” vehicles to be abolished, along with their non-stop automatic surveillance and data mining they do

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          Um, you’re preaching to the choir here.

          As much as I loathe the AI and surveillance and shit, I get downvoted any time I express my opinions.

          Maybe I should be more clear…

          FUCK AI!!!

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              My point is, it exists now, whether we like it or not. I for one do not like it, I prefer Actual Intelligence, like the stuff that comes from the brain noodle.

              But if AI is gonna be the thing, which obviously it is, people shouldn’t deliberately give it bad training data.

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        How about you remember we all pretty much know that?

        This is just the same old strategy of continously refocusing a conversation about the huge amounts of waste the modern global economy creates on a moral failure of individuals to recycle.

        Like waves arms at the unfurling chaos dragon in the sky what does that matter at this late stage of entanglement with weaponized and proud ignorance? Go give someone you love a genuine compliment, that is actually resisting in the way you think you are describing but you are not.

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          The only thing going to waste is, well, everything, plus people’s brains. There’s children starting school that don’t know how to climb stairs now. I’m sure they know how to stare at an iPad though.

          As far as the ‘smart’ vehicles, even if you don’t drive one yourself, the moron on autopilot next to you is sleeping, fucking, or on their phone, trusting a chunk of silicon that they don’t even understand to keep them, and you, safe…

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        It’s like saying that if employees are paid and treated like shit, they should still work hard because the opposite would be immoral.

        That’s bullshit, if AIs are crap because they train on unwilling people, it’s the company’s fault, not the people who are coerced into working for free.

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          I never said any such thing. Matter of fact, I quit fixing phones and tablets back in 2017, partly because the employer had me installing used batteries, while he lied to his customers, telling them they were new batteries.

          I have better ethics than that. I’d rather be homeless than mislead people, especially for a lousy $10 an hour.

          So yeah, you’re right, it’s the company’s fault. Question is, are there any honest companies anymore?

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            Question is, are there any honest companies anymore?

            Wrong question.

            The right question is if there are there any industries in countries like the US that are effectively regulated enough after the long acidic erosion of state functions by decades of neoliberalism and deregulation (especially financial deregulation) to threaten unscrupulous companies enough into behaving as if they were honest companies when they would really rather just save a buck and kill and maim a handful of innocent people?

            Example A: large corporations were bullied into pretending they were pro-trans and pro-gender fluidity right up until the precise moment after they stopped being bullied into pretending they were.

            My line of reasoning is the only way you are going to understand why planes are all of the sudden accidentally crashing into helicopters in ways in a decade or two ago most engineers and pilots involved in the industry would have never let happen even if it took screaming down the CEO who was casually telling them to cut a corner they knew would lead to innocent children and people dying…

            That sense of trust people had about pilots and aerospace industry engineers and regulators was why we were raised to feel a sense of indirect pride in pilots because they remind us when they walk by in a neat and professional uniform that we exist in a society that has magic adults who whisk people into the sky and back so they can see loved ones and somehow do it with incredible safety, kindness and consistency as if it was just a simple matter of filing routine paperwork (no shade at secretaries, that shit ain’t easy either).

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                nah bro lol, have you never played a video game (this is a question sorry if this is unclear). Those mean that you have a quest to turn in or you have to talk to that person in order to continue on in the story campaign.