The funny thing (but still inclusive really) is that…apparently they consider every ethnic group in China to be Han? It’s weird but it means everyone’s in the in-club. Imagine if racist Americans were like every American is actually white (so even PoC are considered white). Weird, certainly racist, but very inclusive; also not helpful to corporations and political parties who need us all to be at each other’s throats.
I’ve noticed the exact OPPOSITE. Every single ethnic groups is CHINESE. Han are Han. Wa are Wa. Hezhe are Hezhe. Yi are Yi. And so on. Everyone is in the “Chinese” club, though. This also includes newer members like Tibetans. They are Chinese now.
There is also no shame in a Han person dressing in the full traditional Yi garb, though. There seems to be no concept of cultural appropriation if someone does it because they love it and don’t claim it as theirs.
Additionally a lot of policies protect the minority ethnic groups. For instance the One Child policy in the days of old only applied to the Han.
As far as I understand in Imperial China lots of disparate people were brought into the ‘Han’ fold for political nation-building reasons. Cantonese and Dongbeiren are very different, but they’re both ‘Han’ for example. The PRC on the other hand seems quite keen on officially differentiating distinct official ethnic groups, but I guess it’s possible that old “inclusive” ideas are still around in niche corners.
You’re not wrong on everyone being firmly included under the banner of ‘Chinese’ though either way.
Isn’t that exactly what happened with whiteness as a concept? Used to be wasp only, now it even includes Italians and the Irish. Black people are also nominally let into the tent of “American” when it is time to shit on the “illegals”.
Don’t really see the need to give credit to this kind of chauvinism.
most of the population is han, but there are 56? officialy recognized indigenous minorities that make up like 10% of the population or so. your ID will have your ethnicity on it for example
Ah, I wasn’t aware of that; admittedly my ‘evidence’ is anecdotal and comes from a few arguments I’ve seen with some folks in/from China where people were saying this region or that isn’t Han but that they’re simply classified that way. Probably a racist argument against Chinese folks that now that I dwell on it, probably went over my head.
as far as i know, a lot of populations have “become” han over time (thousands of years) for example people in the southeast being “nanyue” at some point before the tang dynasty, and a lot of manchu populations becoming han-ified during the qing dynasty and japanese occupation i think.
The funny thing (but still inclusive really) is that…apparently they consider every ethnic group in China to be Han? It’s weird but it means everyone’s in the in-club. Imagine if racist Americans were like every American is actually white (so even PoC are considered white). Weird, certainly racist, but very inclusive; also not helpful to corporations and political parties who need us all to be at each other’s throats.
I’ve noticed the exact OPPOSITE. Every single ethnic groups is CHINESE. Han are Han. Wa are Wa. Hezhe are Hezhe. Yi are Yi. And so on. Everyone is in the “Chinese” club, though. This also includes newer members like Tibetans. They are Chinese now.
There is also no shame in a Han person dressing in the full traditional Yi garb, though. There seems to be no concept of cultural appropriation if someone does it because they love it and don’t claim it as theirs.
Additionally a lot of policies protect the minority ethnic groups. For instance the One Child policy in the days of old only applied to the Han.
God, a similar policy in the US would have torn this country apart.
You don’t have to persuade me, fam I was already sold
This sounds very wrong imo. They consider them to be Chinese, from my understanding.
As far as I understand in Imperial China lots of disparate people were brought into the ‘Han’ fold for political nation-building reasons. Cantonese and Dongbeiren are very different, but they’re both ‘Han’ for example. The PRC on the other hand seems quite keen on officially differentiating distinct official ethnic groups, but I guess it’s possible that old “inclusive” ideas are still around in niche corners.
You’re not wrong on everyone being firmly included under the banner of ‘Chinese’ though either way.
Isn’t that exactly what happened with whiteness as a concept? Used to be wasp only, now it even includes Italians and the Irish. Black people are also nominally let into the tent of “American” when it is time to shit on the “illegals”.
Don’t really see the need to give credit to this kind of chauvinism.
Ah, true. I hadn’t considered it, and actually I have seen this done many times.
most of the population is han, but there are 56? officialy recognized indigenous minorities that make up like 10% of the population or so. your ID will have your ethnicity on it for example
Ah, I wasn’t aware of that; admittedly my ‘evidence’ is anecdotal and comes from a few arguments I’ve seen with some folks in/from China where people were saying this region or that isn’t Han but that they’re simply classified that way. Probably a racist argument against Chinese folks that now that I dwell on it, probably went over my head.
as far as i know, a lot of populations have “become” han over time (thousands of years) for example people in the southeast being “nanyue” at some point before the tang dynasty, and a lot of manchu populations becoming han-ified during the qing dynasty and japanese occupation i think.