ID: ally @missmayn posted: “the democrats were more energized and organized against campus protests than the current authoritarian takeover.”

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      11 hours ago

      They were taught the wrong lesson. The left refuses to vote for them because they don’t perfectly represent them; moderates turn out and can be swung from time to time. What tangible evidence do they have that moving left will gain them more votes than it will cost them?

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        What tangible evidence do they have that moving left will gain them more votes than it will cost them?

        Actual data from Bernie Sanders’ campaign showing that he was vastly more popular overall (and especially in red states) than the centrists.

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            And? Do you think an endorsement automatically means everyone who would have voted for Bernie would vote for Harris? Like I said, Bernie’s popularity over other Democratic candidates was most pronounced in red states. Those votes didn’t transfer to Harris, they transfered to Trump, or to no one at all.

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                Why do you insist on absolving the Democrats of responsibility for their own decisions? It’s on them to learn the right lessons, and they didn’t. It is difficult to get someone to understand something when their salary depends on them not understanding it. Left-populism is the clear solution to their problems but it scares them because it is in direct opposition to their financial interests.

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        I’m not directly affected by American politics. But it is interesting to see how it behaves. The Democrats seem to have an identity crisis, they appear to have expected to win because “who would vote for the orange guy?” mentality, but they showed their lack of vision by allowing Biden to run first then switching to Kamala when it didn’t work out. In the meantime Trump was being a salesman/conman with bold proposals that would benefit the people, even if they weren’t true (as it usual with politics).

        The Democrats needed, from the start, a somewhat young, centrist and fierce candidate, that could chew Trump during debates, thus turning Republican voters, but the Democrat leadership is sadly lacking and not getting on with the times. I see news about the GOP and Turning point USA quite often, never good but very visible while from the Democrat side there is just silence, just waiting the Republicans to lose.