• BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I wonder what kind of long term damage this will do to the US, why the fuck did shit like this have to happen in my lifetime.

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      US soft power is gone now. The sheer treachery displayed in this Ukraine move has completely lost the trust of all of its allies. There’s no way anyone can afford to rely on them for anything now.

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      You’ll probably see the BRICS countries ditching the dollar for their own currency within a few years. With USAID gone basically the entire global South will be looking towards China as well.

      Once oil stops being sold in dollars and the dollar stops being a reserve currency, you’ll probably start seeing hyperinflation and deficits and debts actually mattering a lot more than they currently do.

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        And what has always, in all history, been the most effective metod to deflect from incompetence and one’s own corruption? Yes. It will still be a military superpower by then. I hope I am wrong and that the people in the US act swiftly.

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        When Trump starts to purge the officer corps of the military is a critical moment. Once he has full control over the military, a civil war becomes unlikely.

    • Silic0n_Alph4@lemmy.world
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      I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. “So do I,” said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.

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      3 days ago

      Because the easy times made weak people… People like Trump and Elon. And now the hard times are going to have to forge the strong people… After the weak and wealthy are done harvesting the remaining wealth of America.

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        3 days ago

        That whole “hard times make strong men” litany is pro-war gaslighting, not how humanity works.

        The real (main) reason is the corporate takeover of every part of American society, including the parts that were supposed to defend against and denounce it.

        In effect, you have to be a corporation or have a net worth of at least a hundred million dollars in order to have any real autonomy in the US and corporatist fascism is the inevitable result of that.

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          The “weak men” part is the part where people become so complacent, docile, and addicted to convenience that they allow the corporate takeover to happen.

          Weak men creating hard times is happening right now, in real time, right on schedule.

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            That’s still not accurate. Propaganda is much more effective than most people are aware of/willing to admit.

            You don’t have to be weak or stupid to fall victim to effective messaging and when all of the most trusted sources of information repeat the same pro-corporate and anti-worker propaganda for several lifetimes, everyone who’s not actively searching for independent sources (which is probably 25% of Lemmy but 75% of the general public) will inevitably be fooled into believing the lie since that’s the only information they have available

            Calling people weak for that is textbook victim blaming and pretending that all we need to solve the problems is to be “stronger” is the kind of oversimplification used in the lies that got us here.

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            You don’t need good times to create weak people. You just need people to be stupid and easy to manipulate, which they are all the time by nature. That’s all. WWII followed WWI, there were no good times before the nazi Germany. It didn’t help.