• frezik
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    2 days ago

    Most US imperialist actions post-WWII haven’t been for territory. The modern version is more economic and abstract. It’s why Steven Pinker could write a whole book on why violence has declined in the world, be technically correct for the most part, but completely misses how the situation has transformed.

    And yes, the EU is very guilty of it all, too. You can claim the US is worse, and certainly a revival of territorial imperialism is a regression to a horrible history, but this wholesale wiping away of EU sins is completely unjustified.

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        23 hours ago

        Unlike you Americans, we actually do recognize our actions against our past colonies as crimes against humanity!

        You’re still keeping all of the wealth though, naturally, and maintaining the system of unequal exchange that lets you increase that wealth.

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        Unlike you Americans, we actually do recognize our actions against our past colonies as crimes against humanity!

        lmao 14 countries are forced to use France’s central bank. Do you think Africa sells you labor and resources for pennies instead of developing their means of production because they just love stripping their country of resources for you?

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            Wait, you really don’t know about neocolonialism?

            Also American cheeses as a whole are extremely mid, you’re not going to find anyone defending that shit out outside of Wisconsin.

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                Again, can you maybe read your links? It exclusively gives examples of immortality of the US?

                It literally doesn’t, scroll down.

                The economic dependency is another fun segment for implying that the smaller countries don’t want the larger one’s investment in return of soft power!

                The investment is in maintaining systems that keep resources flowing out as cheaply as possible. Yall aren’t sending dictators arms out of the goodness of your hearts.

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                    Neocolonialism was used to describe a type of foreign intervention in countries belonging to the Pan-Africanist movement, as well as the Asian–African Conference of Bandung (1955), which led to the Non-Aligned Movement (1961). Neocolonialism was formally defined by the All-African Peoples’ Conference (AAPC) and published in the Resolution on Neo-colonialism. At both the Tunis conference (1960) and the Cairo conference (1961), AAPC described the actions of the French Community of independent states, organised by France, as neocolonial.[39][40]

                    The politician Jacques Foccart, the principal adviser for African matters to French presidents Charles de Gaulle (1958–1969) and Georges Pompidou (1969–1974), was the principal proponent of Françafrique.[41]

                    The works of Verschave and Beti reported a forty-year, post-independence relationship with France’s former colonial peoples, which featured colonial garrisons in situ and monopolies by French multinational corporations, usually for the exploitation of mineral resources. It was argued that the African leaders with close ties to France—especially during the Soviet–American Cold War (1945–1992)—acted more as agents of French business and geopolitical interests than as the national leaders of sovereign states. Cited examples are Omar Bongo (Gabon), Félix Houphouët-Boigny (Ivory Coast), Gnassingbé Eyadéma (Togo), Denis Sassou-Nguesso (Republic of the Congo), Idriss Déby (Chad), and Hamani Diori (Niger)

                    You know the shit your companies pull, say nestle using slave labour in south america, would not fly here?

                    Nestle is Swiss.

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        2 days ago

        I explicitly said it’s a return to a horrible history. If you’re not going to take arguments that are given, then I think we’re done here.