• otp@sh.itjust.works
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    8 hours ago

    I’m generally in support of this. The car allows for more freedom in certain conditions, though:

    • Better for people with physical handicaps
    • Can be more easily/comfortably used in extreme weather
    • Doesn’t leave you as hot and sweaty, especially when going to work
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      8 hours ago

      Better for people with physical handicaps

      At least the people with handicaps that can still drive.

      It actively makes the transportation landscape worse for those without hearing or sight or a mobilty reducing handicap that disallows driving.

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        8 hours ago

        Yeah, reducing car usage would be much better for all handicapped people (those who can drive get better traffic.)

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        8 hours ago

        And there small low power cars for people with disabilities that can drive that are still safe for people around them. In some countries like Netherlands they can even use the bike lanes.

          • anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            8 hours ago

            I mean we already have people who clearly can’t drive/can’t afford a car riding rascals around but they have to ride them on shitty uneven sidewalks or in the gutter because America

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      8 hours ago

      Someone addressed your first point. But the second two are only true when your city is so spread out to make room for huge roads and parking lots between everything. Not to mention zoning laws that make it illegal to build denser housing, or to build a grocery store near where people live.

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        8 hours ago

        Id rather be in a tram on rails in snowy conditions than in a private vehicle thats subject to slippery conditions and other vehicles hitting it. The tram if hit often has more mass and survives the hit better than a sedan would.

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          6 hours ago

          rather be in a tram on rails in snowy conditions than in a private vehicle thats subject to slippery conditions and other vehicles hitting it.

          Me too. The post is about bicycles though

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            5 hours ago

            This comment thread is about how cars shield you from the weather. I’d also rather tram part way and bike the rest if the conditions are nasty out.

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              4 hours ago

              I used to live steps from an LRT station. It was amazing. Didn’t even need to bike because the LRT took me everywhere I needed to go in the city! (Well, I also had the option of walking where the LRT didn’t go, lol)

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        6 hours ago

        the second two are only true when your city is so spread out to make room for huge roads and parking lots between everything. Not to mention zoning laws that make it illegal to build denser housing, or to build a grocery store near where people live.

        That’s all definitely true! Sometimes people just live in areas that weren’t designed well, or they live in a different place than where they work by preference or availability.

        If someone normally cycles to work in 20 minutes, it might be worthwhile to have a car available as a backup for days that are extra hot or extra blizzardy.

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          5 hours ago

          Even if someones neighborhood wasn’t designed well, changing zoning laws to allow for more density may make it more viable to put transit there. Then this hypothetical person’s normally 20 minute cycle could become a 5 minute walk + 10 minute tram ride on extra hot or extra blizzardy days.

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            4 hours ago

            Yeah, definitely. The post was about bicycle vs. car though, so that’s what my comment was based on. When we add public transit into the equation, it becomes a bigger and more wholesome picture.