• djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    20 hours ago

    This isn’t really a big news story, Bernie has been doing this pretty consistently. Yes, he was doing it under Biden too. Yes, this is purely performative, it won’t have enough votes. No, this isn’t antisemitic.

    • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      16 hours ago

      it’s not just performative. Just because something isn’t gonna work, doesn’t mean you still shouldn’t take a stand. Morality isn’t something you can turn off and on depending on how useful it is.

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          15 hours ago

          You can support Israel’s right to exist while still condemning the genocide and other human rights abuses that they commit. These things are not mutually exclusive.

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            4 hours ago

            "You can support Nazi Germany’s right to exist while still condemning the Holocaust

            This statement is fully comparable without any exaggeration.

            It is mutually exclusive. Anyone who supports the existence of an Apartheid built on genocide supports genocide. There are no its and buts.

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              That’s just a bad-faith, black-and-white view. Nazi Germany had the right to exist, but they didn’t have the right to invade other countries, exterminate Jews, Romani, gay people, etc. It’s not the existence of the state, or even the beliefs of the people running the state, but the actions that matter.

              You can be the most racist, homophobic, misogynist Christian asshole in the world, and as long as you don’t act on your beliefs, it’s not a problem.

              If Israel ceases it’s genocidal actions, and ceases treating Palestinians like sub-humans, then there’s no issue.

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                Israel is a foundational Apartheid state and system. It is rotten from the core. Like the Nazis. It has no right to exist in the first place. Israel is in its essence rape, murder pillaging and theft.

                If Palestinians allow it then these “Israelis” can live in Palestine after the dismantling of the Apartheid. If not the right of return has long been granted to all colonists. Even to their Arab countries of origin.

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                42 minutes ago

                And Palestine still exists after Israel will be dismantled.

                Nazi Germany entailed half of Europe by the way. The Nazis occupying Poland were booted out to their country of origin.

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      20 hours ago

      It won’t get enough votes, but it will force people to vote and show who they really are.

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      16 hours ago

      He did not criticize Biden during his entire genocide. Bernie supports the actions of Israel

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        9 hours ago

        He stuck (and is sticking) to the party line way too much for way too long, which is something you can criticize him for, but “Bernie supports the actions of Israel” ain’t it.