They are getting lumped together because that’s the context of what OP did. OP has received mod action twice, both times for making directed commentary on the validity of another person’s gender (aka disrespecting).
But yeah, I think curbstickle misread your intent–you are both in the right here there’s just some miscommunication, Hopefully this clarifies. :)
Yes, you are missing the larger context, but I appreciate the question. :) The larger context is that the LBZ admin is an older trans woman herself, and knows how the patterns of transphobia play out in online spaces. She recognizes that, whether or not Person X is “genuine” or “valid” in their gender identity, allowing people to scream “Identity X isn’t real” or similar in response to their mere existence is dangerous in that it makes the site worse and more toxic for every “genuine” or “valid” trans person.
Whether or not species and gender are two different things is largely irrelevant here, because we’re simply talking the context of keeping a sane and non-violent space for trans people. Most spaces take a more relaxed approach because they are not made by or for trans people, and that’s totally fine. But Ada, as a trans person, has chosen the more unique method of just blanket-banning any questioning or directed criticism of other users’ gender (which she labels “gatekeeping”) in order to keep the space peaceful and respectful.
And the thing is, whatever you or OP thinks about it, it works. That’s why you’ll see so many people defend Ada. Are there some assholes out there intentionally making a mockery of gender diversity? For sure! But does it help trans people to throw insults and yell about it in their spaces, instead of quietly blocking and reporting? For many, the answer is a resounding no.
Genuinely hope this helps! I get the vibe you are asking these questions with sincerity, so I am putting in the effort for ya here. :)
Thank you, I think I understand what you’re getting at, at least from the perspective of preemptively trying to get ahead of something perceived as threatening to a community as a whole.
I mean, I may not necessarily agree with all aspects of the situation as a whole, but the logic on behalf of the admin actions I think I can put myself in the shoes of.
Yes, you are missing the larger context, but I appreciate the question. :) The larger context is that the LBZ admin is an older trans woman herself, and knows how the patterns of transphobia play out in online spaces. She recognizes that, whether or not Person X is “genuine” or “valid” in their gender identity, allowing people to scream “Identity X isn’t real” or similar in response to their mere existence is dangerous in that it makes the site worse and more toxic for every “genuine” or “valid” trans person.
And when ‘dogfucker’ is next, it will be insisted that their gender is valid too, because by refusing to acknowledge any definition of the term, you turn gender itself into an empty mockery.
But does it help trans people to throw insults and yell about it in their spaces, instead of quietly blocking and reporting?
Yes, why do that when you can quietly report and ban anyone who disagrees with the gender of dragonfucker.
That wasn’t my question though. Why are they getting lumped together?
It was more of “being a dick for no reason” than a question, and I’m not an expert.
That said, I’d say because their physical body doesn’t match how they feel on the inside. Which is definitely something trans folks experience.
Okay, I can see the overlap with that last part. Thank you for the perspective.
They are getting lumped together because that’s the context of what OP did. OP has received mod action twice, both times for making directed commentary on the validity of another person’s gender (aka disrespecting).
But yeah, I think curbstickle misread your intent–you are both in the right here there’s just some miscommunication, Hopefully this clarifies. :)
Aren’t species and gender two wildly different things? Or am I misunderstanding the larger context?
Yes, you are missing the larger context, but I appreciate the question. :) The larger context is that the LBZ admin is an older trans woman herself, and knows how the patterns of transphobia play out in online spaces. She recognizes that, whether or not Person X is “genuine” or “valid” in their gender identity, allowing people to scream “Identity X isn’t real” or similar in response to their mere existence is dangerous in that it makes the site worse and more toxic for every “genuine” or “valid” trans person.
Whether or not species and gender are two different things is largely irrelevant here, because we’re simply talking the context of keeping a sane and non-violent space for trans people. Most spaces take a more relaxed approach because they are not made by or for trans people, and that’s totally fine. But Ada, as a trans person, has chosen the more unique method of just blanket-banning any questioning or directed criticism of other users’ gender (which she labels “gatekeeping”) in order to keep the space peaceful and respectful.
And the thing is, whatever you or OP thinks about it, it works. That’s why you’ll see so many people defend Ada. Are there some assholes out there intentionally making a mockery of gender diversity? For sure! But does it help trans people to throw insults and yell about it in their spaces, instead of quietly blocking and reporting? For many, the answer is a resounding no.
Genuinely hope this helps! I get the vibe you are asking these questions with sincerity, so I am putting in the effort for ya here. :)
Thank you, I think I understand what you’re getting at, at least from the perspective of preemptively trying to get ahead of something perceived as threatening to a community as a whole.
I mean, I may not necessarily agree with all aspects of the situation as a whole, but the logic on behalf of the admin actions I think I can put myself in the shoes of.
Ugh I’m so happy to hear that. And glad to help!
And when ‘dogfucker’ is next, it will be insisted that their gender is valid too, because by refusing to acknowledge any definition of the term, you turn gender itself into an empty mockery.
Yes, why do that when you can quietly report and ban anyone who disagrees with the gender of dragonfucker.
You want me to ban Ada?
That’s a power far too great for mere mortals to wield, Dr. Wesker