I haven’t tried it with vim in full yet, but I was surprised by how comfortable the hjkl positions are in dvorak. i like tiling window managers with win+vi keys for navigation and such, so it would be important. Dvorak L is kind of annoying at P, and I’m trying to make myself hit it with the pinky usually, but it actually feels alright for keying around in navigation.

I mostly don’t want to have to end up rebinding everything, possibly for every program I use indefinitely, if I stick with the layout. So I’m just learning the new positions to start, and will probably always need a way to switch to qwerty for games.