What are your opinions on the future of back-end web development? Is the Java ecosystem going to wither away as more modern and better solutions are emerging and maturing?

If so, which language/framework and/or programming paradigm do you think will become the new dominant player and how soon?

Personally I would love to see Rust becoming a new standard, it’s a pleasure to write and has a rapidly growing ecosystem, I don’t think it’s far away from overtaking Java. The biggest hurdle imo is big corporations taking a pretty big risk by choosing a relatively new language that’s harder to learn compared to what has been the standard for decades.

Playing it safe means you minimize surprises and have a very large amount of people that are already experts in the language.

Taking the risk will definitely improve a lot of things given that you find enough people that know or are willing to learn Rust, but it also means that you’re trading off Java flaws with Rust flaws. That’s the case however with every big change, and Java flaws are a good enough reason to make a big change.

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    Java is getting better each year plus Kotlin works in the same eco system and is hyper popular. I don’t think that Java will wither any time soon.

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        1 year ago

        Advertising it on work is not an option? Because the technical barrier to change language inside the JVM ecosystem is quite low.

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          That’s not possible for one person to do out of their own personal preferences in a large scale enterprise application.

          It would be a project wide migration with tons of people working on it and testing afterwards.

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              Going to a hybrid would technically be easy it’s true, but very few people know Kotlin so no one would write it, not even the ones who know it since others need to be able to read it.

              I’m not nearly high enough hierarchically to call a shot like this or be able to continually enforce it. I usually always ask my team leader for his opinion even if I’m simply adding some kind of dependency.

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      Kotlin is a very easy transition, and it sorts out a ton of issues that you find in Java. Certainly easier than moving to Rust.