• MintyFresh@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    I know this is an unpopular opinion, but maybe we should all cool it on the tourism. It’s terrible for the environment, mostly terrible for whomever was calling that place home. I know so many people that spout off about the environment and then think nothing of hopping on multiple flights per year.

    If I were king everyone would get travel passes twice. Once in their 20s and again in their 60s.

    Stay home, read a book, plant a garden.

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      I know this is an unpopular opinion, but maybe we should all cool it on the tourism.

      … and crash the economy of number of countries, making their populations poorer. Tunisia - tourism is nearly tenth of their economy and employs 400,000 people - they have entire places built for tourists, nobody would live there otherwise. Morocco is 7%, Egypt is 8%.

      And I want to spend my holidays somewhere where it is warm and sunny, not fucking wet and miserable.

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        So we should prop up an objectively destructive sector of the economy? They’ll all be a hell of a lot poorer when huge swaths of the earth becomes much harder to survive in. And I’m extremely skeptical anything of that 8% of Egypt’s tourism money trikles down in a way that anyone would call fair or equitable.

        And I’m sorry, but I’m not willing to burn down the planet so you can sip fruity drinks under a palm tree. Perhaps if we had invested in a rail system that was worth a damn it would be a different story. But here we are.

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          Tourism isn’t just sipping drinks. It’s also broadening your cultural horizon and learning about other countries and cultures

          Might be something you want to try

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            I have tried it. Learned a good chunk of a second language in fact. Nice of you to assume and imply I’m a xenophobic ignoramus tho. Appreciate that.

            And if you’ll go back to my original comment I never actually advocated for a complete stop to travel, only that we slow down and exercise some moderation.

            Not to mention we have internet and readily available books on just about any topic you care to name. Much different situation than even 50ys ago as far expanding your own horizons goes. I know it’s not the same as being there but still.

            And I’m no more willing to burn the planet for your cultural horizons than the next guys fruity cocktail.

            A lot of colonizer mindset happening in this area

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          I’m not willing to burn down the planet so you can sip fruity drinks under a palm tree.

          You want 400 000 people in Tunisia and tens on millions to lose their jobs to pamper to your prejudice. You are a complete fool. Fortunately you have absolute nothing to say in this matter.

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            It’s like saying we have to keep supporting Israel because we don’t want to lose weapons sales. Nice name calling though. Brilliant rhetoric, really put me in my place.

            Keep flying, consuming conspicuously. Fuck everyone else. Every generation to come. Fuck the animals, fuck the earth. You got yours right?

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              It’s like saying we have to keep supporting Israel because we don’t want to lose weapons sales.

              If you think tourism is comparable with war crimes, you are even bigger fool than I thought.

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                It was an example of propping up a destructive practice for the benefit economy. One meant to illustrate dollars on an account sheet isn’t enough to justify a morally dubious practice.

                I asserted earlier that these places would be poorer for the effects of climate change. You blew right past that into name calling and and a feeble attempt at twisting my words to ridiculous lengths. Care to comment?

                Or perhaps you could explain how your gracing these places with your presence, allowing yourself to be served hand and foot, is the only path forward for these economies? There are so many ways to support a region, to lend a hand and invest in their future.

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                  Destroying tourism would mean destroying number of countries and ruining people lives. If you don’t understand it thank you ARE a fool - this is a reasonable assessment of your intellectual capabilities, not a name calling.

                  Now, disengage, fool.

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      Fly to Frankfurt for fairly cheap. Take the train to Munich and the train to Vienna from there and attend at least a few. Get a cheaper “stay” in the outer districts that are still connected via train. Check if there is offers on “Groupon” for it potentially. Could probably make it with 2k/2.5k

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    There’s a place out in Washington State called Dirtfish. They call it a “rally school”. For a bunch of money they’ll give you a kickass Subaru and let you tear around a dirt track for a few days. Looks awesome.

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    Money is no object?

    Alpha Centauri. Build a spacious and comfortable Orion Drive ship for me and a few thousand of my best friends to go on a nice long trip.

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      I was going to say Mars, just to get there before fElon, but Alpha Centauri sounds nice!

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      Lancaster surprised the hell out of me. I went there for work expecting another Podunk pa town and was pleasantly surprised.

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    I would love to visit New Zealand. I’m a canuk and I hear they are like a better weather version of my country…I’ve also never met a kiwi that wasn’t a stand up person.

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      If money were no object, I’d book a permanent vacation to New Zealand. But a vacation into the Sun has a certain appeal too.

      e: love your username btw

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    Probably Amsterdam or Copenhagen for a few weeks,

    properly experience a walkable city with good transit and cycling infrastructure

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      Having visited both and now living in Copenhagen, it could change your life to visit! Great places to be a tourist

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      lol… it’s what you say but as tourist you not wanna cycle there. You’ll be happy on weekends yo barely have the space to walk. It’s a beautiful city though. Visited it like 3-4 times

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        I think it’s fine to cycle here as a tourist, as long as you looked up the rules a bit first and were a decent cyclist.

        Stay to the right, signal turns and stops, the only weird part is what to do when you’re taking a left at an intersection, where you “park” to wait

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          Considering the intersection coming from noorddijk near loves tours. Nope (for me) . Even as an avid cycler seemed horrible. But anywhere else , especially Utecht , seemed nice