• zeus ⁧ ⁧ ∽↯∼@lemm.eeEnglish
    1223·
    1 year ago

    goddammit

    i joined dxcomplex because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn’t fold (and i liked the name);
    then it folded so i joined .world because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn’t fold (and i liked the name);
    then it got massive so i joined lemm.ee because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn’t fold (and i liked the name)

    i’m starting to wonder if i’m cursed

    • icepuncher69@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      126·
      1 year ago

      Most of the times that i see this meme is always censured, they usually take out the part where the woman gets gropped. While i understeand why someone wouldnt whant to share something that contains sexuall harasment, i think its a little silly and very curious how its users self-censored themselvels with this meme, it its very unussual to find it like this in the wild.

      • Corgana@startrek.websiteEnglish
        91·
        1 year ago

        In this version of the meme she’s actually from an alien culture where it’s considered rude not to kiss someone and squeeze their butt after accepting a medal. Their version of “bless you” after a sneeze.

        I swear to god it’s in the show somewhere look it up.

    • Stoneykins [any]@mander.xyzEnglish
      284·
      1 year ago

      People seem to only want their accounts on “general use” instances that are already pretty popular.

      Which is… bizarre. There is no downside to having your account on a more niche instance (as long as it isn’t so niche that it gets turned off), and there are arguably disadvantages to having your account on a more popular instance.

      • BURN@lemmy.worldEnglish
        221·
        1 year ago

        People want to be where people are. My guess is we’ll end up with a bunch of super instances eventually.

        • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
          14·
          1 year ago

          People want to be where people are.

          This logic only applies in centralized platforms. In the case of the Fediverse, people are everywhere and anywhere.

          • Calavera@lemm.eeEnglish
            6·
            1 year ago

            But here on lemmy itself we can see people gathering in just a few instances

            • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              Not everything happens for a logical reason. It’s human nature to get together in tribes, and the majority of people are okay with just following the pack.

              I just hope that eventually more people figure out that there is no significant advantage in being in the largest instances, and that it can be actually harmful (too many resources, potential drama because too much power is given to the admins, etc)

      • Ashtear@lemm.eeEnglish
        171·
        1 year ago

        One big thing that hasn’t changed from reddit is that lemmy instances are still based on an autocratic power structure. Whether or not your content gets seen or you get to see other content depends on the relationships between those leaders. That means choosing your leadership is of utmost importance, and I eventually settled on lemm.ee because it was the first instance I came across that both a) seemed like it had actual adults running the show, and b) was large enough for that leadership have already faced some challenges and have an established track record.

        That’s the downside to a niche instance.

        • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          That’s the core of every problem that’s occurred to every massive human social structure we’ve ever created in history.

          We create systems, the systems become powerful, a small group of autocratic people naturally gravitate towards wanting to lead, the system is taken over by this small group, the system is corrupted, the system fails, the system ends … then we start over again.

          It keeps happening over and over again and the common denominator is human greed (either in the need to gain money and wealth … or in the need to just want to gain power over everyone)

          The only systems that last are the ones where everyone has an equal stake and a shared power structure. But it’s a balancing game that constantly has to be monitored … because once we stop being vigilant, some greedy idiots will naturally start taking over.

      • Default@aussie.zoneEnglish
        161·
        1 year ago

        A slight advantage to big servers is the increase in anonymity on the backend. Given the server admins can do what ever that want. An admin on small server would no doubt be looking into who and where their individual users are. Big severs are more likely to become more population based. Doesn’t really matter though I suppose.

        • imsodin@infosec.pubEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Yeah no exact opposite for me: Big server means lots of user data making abuse of it more appealing and impactful. While an admin of a small instance having some fun digging through user internals would really do no harm (I don’t believe that’s a particularly typical hobby of small instance admins though xD ).

      • nothacking@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        9·
        1 year ago

        A good 40% of users are spread out on servers with less then 5% of the overall user base, but that is still a good 60% in the top 5 instances, considering how laggy lemmy.ml and lemmy.world are, I am surprised anyone stays on them.

      • Cryophilia@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        1 year ago

        Smaller instances take longer to load content from bigger instances.

        I have a kbin account and a lemmy account, but I find myself more active on lemmy because it’s faster to load new content.

      • neutron@thelemmy.clubEnglish
        61·
        1 year ago

        It’s not easy to see the list of all communities in an instance you don’t have an account. If I login and federate as user@example.com, I can see all the local communities inside example.com, but not others like lemmy.world. I don’t mean individual posts or an individual community, I mean list of all instance communities. I think this is one of high priority issues to be patched.

      • vimdiesel@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        it’s not that bizarre; people want easy and people don’t seem to really understand how it works so they’d rather go where the most people are or the one that is “trending”.

      • Phazei@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        I’ve found that sometimes old posts don’t propagate to newer servers. So if you want to participate in a old thread, you need another account.

      • Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.comEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        The disadvantage of being on a small instance is that you could have an admin who is a fucking moron and ends up breaking stuff because they don’t know what they are doing.

        Sauce: am admin. am fucking moron.

      • kratoz29@lemm.eeEnglish
        8·
        1 year ago

        If they ever defederate from piracy communities, yeah, but I don’t think so, admin has a very anti defederate policy, so I see this scenario very hard to occur.

        • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
          6·
          1 year ago

          Oh, I don’t really care about piracy communities. I meant on the basis of it getting big.

  • Draconic NEO@lemmy.worldEnglish
    51·
    1 year ago

    This graph is actually wrong, lemmy.ml doesn’t have open sign ups, it just appears to because the Lemmy software doesn’t accurately distinguish between open and closed registrations, it only distinguishes between open registrations and application-based registrations. If registrations are closed it’ll look just like they are open, but we’ll just give an error message when you try to sign up which is incredibly deceiving.

    I filed an issue to fix this discrepancy on their GitHub.

    Another issue with this graph is that it shows lemmy.world as American but it’s actually hosted in Finland.

  • ramble81@lemm.eeEnglish
    392·
    1 year ago

    I chose ee over ml after what Mali started doing and that site could drop offline at any time.

    • Navarian@lemm.eeEnglish
      70·
      1 year ago

      Can’t speak for others, but my decision to stick with lemm.ee stemmed from seeing how active the owner is, the minimal defederation and the bot & moderation policies meaning there are minimal bots, and I’ve yet to currently see much spam issues, which is nice.

      Also helps that the owner Sunaurus is an active contributor to the Lemmy project as a whole, so we get patches and fixes relatively quickly.

    • Lucia [she/her]@eviltoast.orgEnglish
      503·
      1 year ago

      why do people choose it over other instances?

      Non-techy people want a big instance, but .world goes offline too often and .ml doesn’t allow new sign ups.

    • SchizoDenji@lemm.eeEnglish
      24·
      1 year ago

      Because it is more open and lenient in not defedereting and as a user i can choose which subs and instances to block.

      • Cloudless ☼@feddit.ukEnglish
        453·
        1 year ago

        Thanks. Looking at the admin’s profile, he seems to be very reasonable. I especially like this comment he made:

        “Not sure if I actually have to justify removing soviet and/or nazi symbolism, but I have lived my whole life in a country on the border of Russia. My country been ravaged by both Nazis and Soviets in very recent history. I want to be clear that while I think criticising capitalism is totally normal and necessary, I am also extremely aware of constant Kremlin propaganda. Propaganda which is spread both in their media, but also crucially in online channels. Propaganda which includes things like downplaying horrifying actions of the soviet union, portraying their “enemies” (the west) in the worst possible light, and mixing in soviet symbolism wherever possible. I have no intention of allowing anything which resembles this propaganda to be spread through lemm.ee. If banning offending users does not work, then further steps will definitely be taken.”

          • Nowyn@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            7·
            1 year ago

            History fits the majority of Eastern European countries but yes as said they are Estonian. Actually, now that I think about it can’t really think of any Eastern European countries that it doesn’t fit at all.

            • BURN@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              Eastern Europe had finally just stabilized a little bit it looked like. They’ve consistently gotten the short end of the stick from the superpowers in the region using their territory for war.

              Hopefully after Ukraine is over (with Ukraine keeping all their land) there will be some stability in the region again

              • Nowyn@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                4·
                1 year ago

                Living next to Russia has never been easy. Living between Russia and Western powers has been worse. I’m Finnish and while we have not really seen ourselves as Eastern Europeans for a long time, we are. Just got lucky past century.

  • RickRussell_CA@kbin.social
    231·
    1 year ago

    Oh goody. There’s a RickRussell_CA@lemm.ee and it’s not me. And it’s using one of my older profile pictures.

    EDIT: 2023/8/29 update – I posted to the lemm.ee support community and the admins decided to disable the account. Well done!

    • walden@sub.wetshaving.socialEnglish
      12·
      1 year ago

      That’s why we disabled the buy-sell-trade community on our niche instance. Nobody got scammed during the short time it was open, but if a username can be duplicated it makes scamming that much easier.

    • ieightpi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      1 year ago

      Uhhhhh. Yeah this was always something I was worried about with multiple instances. Having multiple usernames run my different people. The @ at the end will be crucial for people keep them separate

    • MicroWave@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      9·
      1 year ago

      That sucks. Looks like they actually went out of their way to create that account a few days after yours.

    • Efwis@lemmy.zipEnglish
      82·
      1 year ago

      The only bad part about the fediverse, imho, it’s hard to be the only one with your username. What makes it bad is a malicious user, that you may have pissed off somehow, start using your username in a smear campaign to hurt your reputation.

      • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
        22·
        1 year ago

        The key is to not attempt to foster a reputation in anonymous social media

        • Efwis@lemmy.zipEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          True. I try to stay anonymous. But that doesn’t work on all social medias. Take Facebook for example, they show all that info in your profile allowing haters to hate

      • Izzy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        71·
        1 year ago

        You are the only user with the username Efwis@lemmy.zip. Nobody else can have that username.

        • Efwis@lemmy.zipEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          This is true, just like I have an ml account too. But I wouldn’t put past someone to create another account on another instance with efwis and start some shit because I hurt their feelings. So far that hasn’t been an issue but there is a first time. Especially since the username doesn’t show what instance your’re on on the feeds

  • GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.eeEnglish
    231·
    1 year ago

    Noooooooooooo. Don’t get too big or that’ll just paint a target on our server for the DDOS attacks!

      • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
        54·
        1 year ago

        I see only two ways for this to stop happening:

        • Instance admins make a collective pact to close registrations if their instance reaches x% of the total active base, and only open again when this number goes down to x/2%. I think x=10 would be a good start.

        • Instead of donations, instances start charging for access after a certain number. This is what my instance is doing: the first 250 active users are free, after that payment is required.

  • Demigodrick@lemmy.zipEnglish
    22·
    1 year ago

    They should probably add a % measure to that to show active users as a % of total users to give a more balanced look at active instances

    • oce 🐆@jlai.luEnglish
      21·
      1 year ago

      What is felt by users is the absolute number rather than the proportion.

        • oce 🐆@jlai.luEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Because when you open and later refresh Lemmy, the quantity of new posts you will see, which gives an idea of Lemmy’s activity, is proportional to the absolute number of active users, not the proportion of active users per instance.

          • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            By why not both, I meant why not display both the number of users and the proportion of the total userbase. This does not seem to be an answer to that question.

            • oce 🐆@jlai.luEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              I thought you asked why wouldn’t both be felt by users. Otherwise, sure both can be displayed, the proportion gives an idea of the dynamic of a community.

    • Navarian@lemm.eeEnglish
      33·
      1 year ago

      This was asked in the lemm.ee discord and the answer given is below.

      Ping times are low everywhere because the files we serve are hosted on globally distributed servers. So if you’re in North America, you will download the frontend code (and images etc) from a North American server. But the backend is actually hosted in Germany

      • Durotar@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Do you know if personal data (like emails, IP addresses) is also distributed across the world? I mean, this is important from the privacy perspective. Different countries have different rules.

        • w2qw@aussie.zoneEnglish
          9·
          1 year ago

          It’s just using cloudflare. So likely your private data is just temporarily stored on the CloudFlare node in your region and in Germany.

        • Navarian@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Frankly I have absolutely no idea, I would encourage asking if you’re concerned though.