stop trying to give me an ultimatum, saying iāll go to hell or that we canāt be friends if i donāt pray.
if iām uncertain that god exists because thereās NO PROOF EITHER WAY for me.
iām not a āperfectā straight christian woman like you are, iām not going to change myself because my looks ātemptā men. i dress for me, not for men.
i donāt CARE if same-gender relationships are āsinsā and youāll go to hell. there are some pro-lgbt churches. i donāt care if āall women are for is to complement men and theyāre inferior and they should only be with other men for that reasonā.
this shit makes me so mad. i donāt have to be religious if i donāt want to be. thereās this one straight christian woman i know and she hates other women itās so annoying, and she claims to support the lgbt but ādoesnāt care about gay/trans rightsā.
omfg shut up, thereās some actual kind christians despite me not being one myself, but these people obviously arenāt.
if youāre genuinely curious as to whether i pray, am christian/religious, or go to church, then thatās fine, but DONāT TRY TO FORCE ME. i thought christianity preached acceptance??
The people you are talking about are not Christians. They do not follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. They are at best cafeteria Christians and at worst Christians in name only.
Thatās kind of the problem though - they do follow the teachings. The bible clearly states that two men who sleep together must be stoned to death, and that people are encouraged to spread these beliefs. It is true that they are ignoring the parts about being kind to other people, but at the same time, you are likely ignoring the parts that tell you that you can keep slaves as long as they are from other regions, that you cannot eat pork and shellfish, and that you must stone gay men.
This makes you absolutely a better person that the dipshits that OP is complaining about. But nevertheless, they are likely just as christian.
And that adulterer should be stoned to death. Bring Trump and Iāll bring the stones?
That defiant daughters should be stoned to death.
That the babies of your enemies should be killed by bashing their heads on rocks.
We have moved past those barbaric religious practices as a society.
The opposite of progressive is not conservative. The opposite of progressive is regressive. Backwards. They are backwards.
It also says in multiple places that judgement is for God, not man.
I wonder if weāll ever find a true Scotsman.
Ok, but a āChristianā is anyone who claims to be a Christian. There are no other unifying features of Christianity that make one a āTrueā Christian. Of course, all Christians claim to be the āTrueā Christians, and claim that any Christians who do not meet some arbitrary requirement arenāt really Christians. All Christians have equal claim to the ideology, and this equally validates their claim to be Christians and invalidates their claims that others are not real Christians.
Christians follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. If you donāt follow the teachings of Jesus Christ but call yourself a Christian you are a Christian in name only.
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Jesus Christ had a lot of teachings, one of which is that all humans are imperfect. All fall short, and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Does that mean you arenāt a Christian, since youāre expecting perfection of Christians?
Perfection, no. An effort, yes. I am an atheist and live in a country with actual religious freedom.
Iād argue that anyone claiming to be a Christian believes they are making an effort to follow the teachings of Christ as they understand them.
Iām not sure why you think where you live is relevant, but OK.
If āChristiansā had read and understood the Bible instead of just accepting what bad faith actors told them I bet they would probably be better Christians.
Where I live is relevant since as an atheist I have actual religious freedom which means that the Christian prohibition against judging others does not apply to me. I am free to judge that false Christians are horrible people.
The problem is in understanding the bible. Christianity is an esoteric religion. A quick read is not going to get someone there. It is beyond most peoples range of knowledge. Eastern religions ( Buddhism, Hindu, etc ) make it clear that a teacher is needed to understand. In the west Christianity is a perverted false religion at this point and has been for a very long time. This has allowed for many āfalse Prophetsā (which the same religion clearly warned against) to lead masses of people down a wrong path.
You have a rose-tinted picture of Christianity. Christians are Christians are Christians are Christians. You donāt get to be the arbiter of ārealā Christianity.
Christians are the followers of the teachings of Jusus Christ. If you donāt follow the teachings of Jesus Christ you may call yourself a Christian but you are not a Christian.
And who exactly decides whether you are following the teachings of Jesus Christ?
Are you the arbiter? Out of curiosity, should I send prospective Christians your way for adjudication? I just feel like I need to know who I can safely ignore and those who legitimately are Christians and have the correct moral standing to judge my placement into eternal damnation.
Whatās the best way to get a hold of you? Do you charge for this service or is this something of a ministry? Do you have a website or should I just DM you here?
Fortunately, the teachings of Jesus Christ are well documented and whether they are or are not following those teachings is self evident.
Might want to change the name of your religion then, because itās been mainly overtaken by evil hateful people, and youāre not going to get it back.
Iām an atheist. Atheism is not a religion. Itās the complete lack of religion.
Iām aware of what atheism is, thanks, sweetie.
Maybe donāt talk like you know what a āāāreal Christianāāā is. I know what it is because I lived that life and am now stuck in a town where itās the majority. Fuck your pussyfooting.
Sit down.
Does that ever work? It isnāt going to work with me.
Itās obvious that the loudest modern āāāāāāāāChristiansāāāāāāāā (Iām not sure what the point of all those quotation marks is but Iām just going with it) pick and choose the most hateful passages of the Old Testament to justify their own fear, hate, and self loathing.
You may not like it but it is the truth.
Sorry that it hurts your feelings to know that current Christian ideology is hateful and shitty.
It doesnāt hurt my feelings. As Iāve said a couple of times, I live in a country with actual religious freedom where what those shitty people believe doesnāt effect me in any way. Their beliefs donāt prevent my gay friends from marrying and they donāt prevent my wife, daughter, and female friends from making decorations about their own healthcare without interference from shitty people who donāt know them.
There is a difference between pointing out that they are shitty people and having hurt feelings. It appears that the only people with hurt feelings in this conversation are those who are butt hurt because I pointed out that some modern Christians are horrible people.
Cafeteria sounds good. How could something cafeteria-related be bad?
They pick and choose.
They follow Leviticus 20:13 but not Matthew 7:1-3 or Luke 6:37.
They chose which teachings to follow based on their own fear, hate, and self-loathing.
Ever been in a shitty cafeteria? I have.