• melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 hours ago

    libs don’t give a shit about truth. they literally can’t understand the idea. telling a liberal the truth is like reading poetry to your dog. it’s a sweet romantic idea, and maybe it makes you a good person, but only the tone actually matters.

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      4 hours ago

      lemmy has convinced me that neither conservatives nor communists know what a liberal is.

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        6 minutes ago

        life has convinced me that liberals certainly don’t. I guess if we’re both right, only we anarchists can see the truth. as if my ego needed that.

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        1 hour ago

        “Liberal” means different things in Europe vs America, and that confusion has been specifically exploited by propagandists as well, just making things worse.

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        2 hours ago

        Here’s a work going through every major liberal philosopher and what liberalism meant to them, and how they dealt with the contradictions. It’s the same definition used in every serious work for the last 200 years or so.

        This confuses a lot of Americans whose political understanding is largely dictated by cable news, because since 1980 or so, conservatives started using liberal to mean “far left” as a pejorative due to Reagan calling Carter’s policy too liberal. Later on, the American “left”, social democrats, started using it to mean the same thing, but in a positive context.

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          13 minutes ago

          I’ll read that, but not today. For the sake of responding within the current month, I had chatgpt summarize it for me. The gist I get is that “liberalism” is a lie, and it’s secretly fascism (I’m paraphrasing the summary pretty hard), benefiting the in-groups and oppressing everyone else. Would you say this is an accurate, if oversimplified, description of what you want me to understand?

        • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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          1 hour ago

          We’re not “confused”, we have a different variant of English and a different definition for “liberal”.