• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    My point is you’re gaslighting to pretend that fossil fuels burnt to power EV’s are better fossil fuels burnt to power electrolysis.

    They both need the energy source to be made clean, but hydrogen will be cleaner at that point, regardless of the efficiency issues (which are already being addressed).

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      22 hours ago

      I just wrote why fossil fuels burnt for charging EVs are better than electrolysis. Not gaslighting, just math. Almost triple better in fact. Did you read it or just plugged you ears and sang very loudly?

      And again, if you have fossil fuels you don’t do electrolysis, there’s better, more efficient methods to reform methane into hydrogen. Not close to the efficiency of batteries, but better than electrolysis. Use better arguments to defend your opinion, man.

      And on top of that, think about the infrastructure. Compressing, transporting and even storing hydrogen requires complex equipment. I can generate green energy at home and charge my car with it, right now. We’ll, not right know as it almost midnight, but I did it earlier today. Not at some point in the future, not addressing issues and maybe and perhaps. Literally today. No transport, other than the cables from my roof to my car.

      And if I didn’t have solar panels I could buy a generator for 300 bucks and create my electricity at home with some gasoline.

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          21 hours ago

          Please tell me you top 5 favorite hydrogen compressors. Oh, you mean putting a 9v battery in salt water to create bubbles? How fun!

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              4 hours ago

              This doesn’t include the one thing I explicitly asked for and is a big obstacle for at home production: compressing hydrogen to 700 atmospheres.

              The you still have to overcome the 50% energy loss in the fuel cell. And even this article doesn’t mention any numbers regarding the efficiency of the electrolysis.

              You don’t understand the commitment to batteries? They are 3 times more efficient, easier to fill, and easier to recover energy from. And those obstacles don’t deem to go away anytime soon.

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                4 hours ago

                If you would like a specific answer, you should look it up yourself to your own satisfaction, instead of sealioning.

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                  2 hours ago

                  I have the answers, I provided them above, I can cite my sources as well.

                  I haven’t asked any questions, either…

                  But nice knowledge of animals, I bet that book about the Zoo was very colorful.

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                    25 minutes ago

                    I haven’t asked any questions, either…

                    This doesn’t include the one thing I explicitly asked…