cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/23396300
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nickyflowers posts:
it would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. the advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though and their definitions of family and friendly are absolutely fucked. but since they’re in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. tiktokers say things like “unalive” and “seggs” because they know death and sex are too adult for online. online is for idiot babies only now because they’re easier to market to
nickyflowers replies:
oh im sorry you’re a trans adult? super ban. you are super banned for life. you have upset Visa’s feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. how could you do this to Google Ads?
It’s either that or I unleash the fedposting lmao.
The companies doing this are americans and americans are pussies who think sitting in sauna naked with your same-sex family members is traumatic but watching endless gore is fun. The mindless religious zealotry, their puritan ancestors and lack of separation between church and real life is to blame.
I blame the rise of nu-puritanism on Google and payment processors. It’s a load of bullshit that people can’t even have negative feelings these days.
Yup.
If I can’t say basic words and facts like, this woman was raped, this man died, etc.
I just don’t use the website in any meaningful way.
The US religious fundamentalists have managed to impose their fucked up values on the world. Calling it “family values” was always a lie.
Hurting someones feelings or being offended is the worst thing an american could ever go through. It absolutely tanks ad revenue.
these people cannot be a part of society. put them on an island with no minerals and let them live in log cabins and fuck their children and do patriarchy all day.
or maybe you think that’s evil and unkind to the children, and they should just be killed and the children freed. whatever.
Either way, I’d like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Peter Thiel is trying okay? Give him a break, these things take time… and Greenland (New Zealand said no)
I said log cabins, not bunkers.
also: NZ said no? good for them!
Fediverse and DNS sinkholes FTW. Any way I can avoid becoming someone’s money is nice.
Yeah, I dont understand either. Why the fuck cant you say suicide? When someone kills themselves, thats suicide, not ‘unalive’.
Whats next, people cant even say ‘unalive’?
It’s because the app reportedly limits and is more selective with videos that contain certain words. Death, rape, suicide, homicide, genocide, murder, etc. it can also pull your video. They don’t do it because they are sparing anyone’s feelings, their saying it that way to avoid their videos being taken down it hidden.
I’ve been saying for years that the advertiser-friendly neo-puritanicalism that was infecting the left was a trojan horse for conservatism, and then here we are.
How was it infecting the left?
Insistence on decorum, general anti-sex sentiments, curtailing of language to adhere to advertiser-friendly standards, to name a few.
I think all of that is true when it comes to mainstream public events, but bath houses are still a thing and queer people are still having a lot of sex. Playing to your audience is just strategic.
Bath houses are terrorism and queer people are illegal now in us.
I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say, if I’m being honest.
I will say though that having sex and being pro-sex are two extremely different things, and the existence of one does not in any way imply the existence of the other.
I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say, if I’m being honest.
Advertisers didn’t change queer people, queer people changed advertisers.
I will say though that having sex and being pro-sex are two extremely different things, and the existence of one does not in any way imply the existence of the other.
How can someone have lots of sex without being pro-sex? You’re incorrectly conflating the idea of doing sexual things in general and the idea of doing sexual things in public; most Pride events are less overtly sexual now than they were in the past, but that’s not a reduction to the original goals of Pride.
Advertisers didn’t change queer people, queer people changed advertisers.
You’re not immune to marketing and conditioning. It’s not a one-way street, it’s two-way.
How can someone have lots of sex without being pro-sex?
I dunno, maybe ask the Catholic Church, or the Mormon Church, or any other famously anti-sex organization that promotes heavy breeding but still uses harmful shame tied to sex as a a means of control?
You’re incorrectly conflating the idea of doing sexual things in general and the idea of doing sexual things in public; most Pride events are less overtly sexual now than they were in the past, but that’s not a reduction to the original goals of Pride.
No, I’m not. You’re conflating being pro-sex with being sexually active.
kink@pride discourse was the first time I saw that.
C’mon, you don’t have to look very hard to find puritanical, anti-sex ‘leftists’
Yes advertisers like chase and Walmart and visa are truly the most left you can be.
I’m not calling those who craft and insist on this kind of language left, I am calling the people who accept and use it supposedly part of the left (in vague terms).
You are making my point. My point is that conservativism is charlatans and we becomes their stooges when we play according to their terms, including on the field of language.
I definitely don’t know what your point is, still. Genuinely no offense, but English is clearly not your first language and I don’t understand what you’re trying to say.
Relatively easy fix though. Get away from advertiser supported platforms and use community supported ones.
funnily enough on tiktok you can say “fuckass” but you cant say someone’s intelligence is akin to that of a toaster or that someone is stupid. i have also seen the n word multiple times
Can we say braindead? Because that’s braindead.
You mean brainunalive?
Excuse me sir, I think you meant to say “terminal cognitive deficiency”.
I am going to beat someone to death with their own spinal column. Failing that I’ll just commit the blood eagle.
Heavy gore: Lyrics from Amon Amarth - Blood Eagle
Carved upon your naked back
BLOOD EAGLE
Skinned alive, your ribs are cracked
BLOOD EAGLE
Still alive, you gasp for air
As panic strikes your eyes they stare
Terror grips your dying heart
BLOOD EAGLE
The term “unalive” is so cringey yet dystopian that I don’t know whether to feel embarrassed or concerned when I hear it.
Had their violent delights
It started out as a fun way to make light of Disney refusing to allow the word “Kill” to show up in the cartoon adaptation of Ultimate Spider-Man, now when I hear it in a youtube true crime video I want to game end myself.
And the ironic thing is that episode literally had deadpool in it. So dead’s fine but kill isn’t
Yeeted right into the search history of life
was that in the comics or cartoon?
Cartoon, Deadpool leaned on the fourth wall to say “Something’s preventing me from saying the k-word, so I guess I’m trying to unalive these people.”
It was funny because it was being used to mock censorship instead of being a form of it
I’m waiting for that word to become so popular it also gets censored, it’d be hilarious
I’ve got a list of backups:
- cooked
- spaced (see The Expanse)
- inhumed (as opposed to exhumed as one might do in removing a corpse from a grave; see Terry Pratchett’s Discworld’s Assassins Guild lingo)
- processed (as one does to food using a food processor)
- isekai’d (for the weaboos)
- truck-kun’d
- terminated (for when the Terminator movies become popular again)
- old yeller’d
- returned to sender (until the postal system collapses)
- X trimester aborted
- Peter Pan’d (as in, thrown off a cliff and expected to fly)
- Mufasa’d (or any notable fictional character whose death was a major plot point)
i like the term “zeroed” from cyberpunk as in “they got zeroed” (unsure if that is the correct spelling)
Worms games have a nice list of expressions for managing kills (or drowning)
I’d just take them from the parrot sketch.
POOLLLYY! POOLLLYYYY!! WAKE UP POOOLLLYY!!! bangs the parrot on the table See? He’s DEAD!
Old yeller’d hits different
As a Pratchett fan, I have to say unalive <> inhumed; since “unalive” = dead whereas “inhume” = kill
Most of these have clear other meanings that wouldn’t work being turned into a substituted for killed or died
I wouldn’t worry about that one too much. Death has a ton of euphemisms to soften the concept; “passing away”, “transitioning”, “going home”, etc and so on and whatnot.
My grandpa transitioned, she’s now my grandma
Sorry for your loss. On the other hand, congrats
Oooh, a trans-grand-parent!
Kicked the bucket
Bought the farm
Took their leave
Adjourned to rest
Took the long napWhat are some more?
Punched their ticket Meeting the lord No longer amongst the living Pining for the fjords
I’ve been so deep into fediverse stuff that I forgot about that. I feel blessed
Have never been on Tiktok. Have no regrets.
I mean it comes up basically every day here where people complain about censorship in a screenshot submitted to some shitpost or meme community.
#blessed
do hashtags even work here?
Hashtags are a Twitter invention and Lemmy is a decentralized reddit clone and reddit doesn’t use hashtags so no.
Kinda (no).
On Lemmy hashtags are just to format a header, as you’ve shown. However, you might see them seemingly randomly because microblog users can post to lemmy and they use them because hashtags work as tags for them.They do work for those of us on mbin
wait huh? there’s no way it’s that bad, right?
i luv y’all, fedi frens! ~ <3
Demonitising youtubers has made the Internet say
Unalive
A baby have been formed
Frick
And other shit it’s stupid and the self censoring of fuck is annoying. I mean I would love for the Americans to invent new swear words. In German the censoring almost always fail since we have way to many words for insulting or swearing. Some are always free to use.
But the Americans just censor fuck instead of getting creative. Boring as a speech of Trump.
This is just the surface-level stuff that people see and get annoyed with. This faux puritanical censorship is also used to blot out content on “sensitive subjects” that would otherwise be informative to people but harmful to the corporate or state image. It’s getting harder and harder for news on the Palestinian genocide to trend before it gets shadowbanned on any platform, just as an example.
George Carlin warned us about this 30 years ago.
I’d link to it but I’m in the middle of a severance theory video.
Twitter is filled with porn and racism but still has payment processing and ads. 4chan has payment processing. I don’t think this is a universal truth. It’s more like some sites purposefully chose to have strict guidelines for whatever reasons.
Good luck finding a Pepsi ad on Twitter lol
“Sorry guys, the ad people don’t like it.” was just an excuse, the real goal was censorship of the web.
If Corporations are allowed to set the rules as to what gets talked about and what can’t be mentioned, it’s easier to flood the net with advertisements for their products.
This was posted on tumblr where trans people being suspended by staff with no good reason is a fairly regular occurrence
