Ah, fuck. Give me a minute… Sorry, federation is a fucking nightmare sometimes.

Only like 3 of us are awake right now. So yes, the vote will take time.

For the record, I’m voting yes, unlock it. Tbh I didn’t even think it should’ve been a vote, but the opinions were mixed, so…

As I’m typing this, we got somewhat of a greenlight to unlock it in spite of the tied vote. So…there lol.

That would be nice, and we did want to but it’s expensive and none of us can afford it.

https://lemmy.world/post/24479762?scrollToComments=true

Sorry it took so long, but we’ve addressed everything in a pinned post

https://lemmy.world/post/24479762?scrollToComments=true

Drag was banned for encouraging suicide and violence from trans people (multiple times), and for an egregious level of harassment of another user with alt accounts. We didn’t have any issues with their pronouns.

Frankly, Ada’s post threw us under the bus in that regard, even if that wasn’t her intention. I believe her post was directed at the members of the community who were criticizing drag’s pronouns, but I think to a lot of people it came across as if she were addressing the ban. They simply had nothing to do with each other.

I love it

Can you link me any examples? The report log is empty, and frankly I read every post most days of the week along with most of the comments, and I can’t think of anything we haven’t taken care of or wasn’t taken care of swiftly.

Damn, they really missed their chance lol

I’m saying our moderation isn’t changing. Like, the rules page is word for word the same as it was in LBZ. We’re still not tolerating MAGA shit, transphobes, tankie shit, etc.

I really don’t mean any ill will!

As moss said, this is ideological differences in how low grade transphobia and queerphobia should be dealt with. moss is ok with community pushback for the low grade stuff rather than moderation, whereas I’ll just remove it.

I agree, and that’s all I’m trying to say. I didn’t mean for any of that to be rude, but a lot of people are demanding an explanation and I’m just trying to be honest. We disagree about how to handle moderation and that’s fine, I’m not trying to paint you as a bad mod.

And I’m sorry about not having an LBZ mod, I wasn’t aware that we needed one. Federated communities are a new thing for me and I’m still learning.

I understand it may not seem like it, but we truly don’t mean any ill will. There is none on our part, and I hope the same is true for you.

That’s valid! But we are confident that we’ll be able to stay on top of things. If there were any doubts, we wouldn’t have made the switch.

Tbf I did try to bring it up a while ago but it upset Ada for some reason, even though I’m fairly certain I didn’t say anything we weren’t on the same page about… So I removed it.

You’re right, though, we should have said something first. That’s our bad.

https://lemmy.world/comment/14554947

And if someone says or implies women owe them sex, that’s not a “respectful disagreement” and would earn them a ban. I just don’t think that’s what he was saying.

mods

Keep in mind I’m just one mod. The other 7 are a lot less forgiving.

I misremembered that incident, the person who wrote that wasn’t the one who got banned (well, they probably did but that’s not what the other mod was talking about). It was another comment that was basically just recapping what everyone had said. That’s my bad for not fully reading my own screenshot, I was just looking for a quick example. Here’s a better one.

The other mods are a lot harsher on that stuff, though, so I don’t think you have to worry about it. I’m only one of 8 mods. Don’t get me wrong though, I don’t agree with the guy, and I know it smells like incel shit, but as long as he’s not saying they owe him sex I think it’s whatever. If celibacy is a deal breaker for him, that’s his prerogative. Or if he thinks the plan will have blowback, then that’s his opinion. But I’m 99% sure the other mods would have removed it or banned the guy anyways if Ada didn’t, so take that for what it’s worth ig.

If the premise of the disagreement is that your gender is invalid, then I don’t consider that respectful regardless of how polite they’re being.

Lemmy as a whole is pretty far left-leaning so I don’t expect it to be an issue… but if we do start getting more of that stuff, the punishment will be the same as it has been (a ban).

They rescinded that statement, which I think is a good sign. We gave them feedback and they listened.

The policy was obviously flawed, but I think the spirit of the post was valid. Instances like .ml have major censorship problems, and if they want to be the opposite of them then that’s great.

I haven’t interacted with the LW admins much, but I’m confident that they’ll be more flexible than LBZ if they do end up taking issue with our mod actions. But I don’t think it’ll come to that anyways.

This isn’t my post, but I’ll ask Moss to edit in a better explanation into the “why” part of the text.

I’m pretty sure we can, and they rescinded the policy anyways. I think they mainly wanted to combat censorship, so I think whatever they update it to will be reasonable.

The kind of content they were concerned about was respectful and well-meaning people, so I’m confident that if we continue to ban/remove people/comments as we have been doing, there will be no problems.

I’m just trying to set the record straight, because after that incident a lot of people seem to have gotten the impression that we disagreed with Ada’s decision, or that we banned Drag over neopronouns. But we don’t disagree, and we do respect neopronouns.

And about my comment, I only brought it up because Pug’s post was getting a lot of positive reception, so I thought if people were unhappy with BLZ then it’d be a good idea to tell them we’ve been working on transferring out of there. But Ada got upset over it, and tbh I’m still not sure exactly why, so I removed the comment.