“Some of you may be willing to die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make” but unironically
Edit: The user has since apologised https://hexbear.net/comment/3848285
“Some of you may be willing to die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make” but unironically
Edit: The user has since apologised https://hexbear.net/comment/3848285
I think it had more do to with 10,000 dead Russian soldiers
Yea it’s deffinitly that and not the fact they had taken the territory they stated from the start they were trying to take.
also didn’t it come out later that african states had gotten russia and ukraine to get peace agreements in place so russia withdrew to the single eastern front?
Yes the stunning military victory knows as “retreat from Kyiv”
As you say this I imagine you standing on an aircraft carrier with a big banner behind reading “mission accomplished”
That’s fucking hilarious because Kyiv not falling in a week has been touted as a Ukrainian victory even though it was them who set that goal and them literally declaring victory while the russians actually accomplished all their stated goals.
Since your such a military genius it’s weird how the concept of cutting supply lines to the territories you’re trying to take is an unfamiliar concept. Obviously they weren’t trying to stop supplies to the actual contested regions they were just yoloing a mission to a capital they never claimed as a goal for no apparent reason.
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Russia: currently holding all the territory they said they wanted to take before the invasion and for the last decade
Ukraine: conscripting people to throw at russian defenses resulting in tens of thousands of deaths and retaking zero ground, complaining that the counter offensive is failing because Russia is cheating by using anti tank mines to stop tanks
If this is copium it’s some good shit
Comrade the SMO objectives are demilitarization which a grinding war of attrition will yield by the depletion of military supplies as well as the casualties wrought upon the Ukrainians. Russia holds the territory that voted to join the Russian Federation so they have succeed in that objective, the objectives of denazifying the Ukrainian military is achieved by the aforementioned demilitarization so what exactly are you getting at?
There are many informed sources discussing the pros and cons of the pivot from a maneuver based doctrine into a attrition based one however we cannot judge this until the SMO is over, but at this juncture I can state that the Ukranian counter-offensive is a failure, this is supported by many western sources.
This is not some Civilization 6 based war where controlling a capitol is the objective, we have seen the utter devastation sustained by the NATO forces by engaging in Russian lines with the tactics they trained on, other posts touch on the fact that once Ukranians abandon such training and resort to Soviet doctrine there is the success of taking small villages however trench/artillary based warfare does not favor Ukraine and it is in their best interest to negotiate a second cease fire, but the Boris Johnson simalcrum that is the military industrial complex will not permit this.
Why are you so afraid to engage with the arguments presented to you?