• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          A well balanced breakfast, being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed.

          In the above sentence, who has the right to keep and eat food, “the people,” or “a well balanced breakfast?”

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              So if you skip breakfast you don’t deserve the right to food? No lunch or dinner? Snacks ist verboten?

              It clearly says the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed. You know you’re wrong.

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                You wrote a dumb shit sentence because the militia is the cause of the clause that follows in this stance, and in your example a breakfast is not the cause for keeping food but rather breakfast food.

                You made a bad example and declared it victory lol

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                  It’s not a bad example, it’s gramatically the exact same, and instead of admitting you’re wrong you’re choosing to stamp your feet like an obtuse child. You’re free to do so, but everyone else is free to read your shame.

                  Edit: wait, different person. You’re choosing to stamp your feet on behalf of another* like an obtuse child, 'scuse me.

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                    You’re posting in a public forum home slice.

                    If you’re intent on a private conversation, DMs are right there.

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                The hell is this weird strawman. Im not arguing against food im telling you how a sentence is written. As written, a balanced breakfast is the entire reason people have the right to food.

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        Your right to bear arms is not infringed by specific controls.

        You have a right to freedom of religion but local codes still come into okay for sacrifices/burnt offerings/etc.

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      Yawn, it’s clear you don’t know how to read literature from the period. There’s plenty of explanation of the phrasing, indeed by the writers themselves in contemporary missives. But you don’t really care, you already have your ideology.

      Go read any Jane Austen and you’ll learn. Even better, the Federalist Papers, or the Adams/Jefferson letters.

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        Or more specifically, Federalist #29, which argued that the US should not have a standing military. THAT was the reasoning behind 2A. Of course our forebears learned pretty quickly that was a dumb ass hill to die on, and we have a huge standing military. The reasons for the 2A have been buried in progress, yet scared neanderthals still feel the need to cower with their guns in fear that the big bad world will touch them.

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          yet scared neanderthals still feel the need to cower with their gun

          I’d argue the scared neanderthals are the ones pants-shittingly terrified of imagine objects.

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          Thanks for finding which paper it was… I have a copy but didn’t feel like finding it and finding the right paper. Call me lazy 🤷‍♂️

          And in the end, they codified what they saw as a natural, inborn, individual right. That wasn’t by accident - Jefferson was very intentional in the words he chose (and they argued over, properly). Knowing the language had to be clear and concise, this is what resulted. It’s pretty clear if you’ve read anything from 1600 onward.

          Some of how the writing of the time (and place, Britain) flows is, I suspect, partly an influence of French language that some also knew - “twenty and four years” is clear French construction, not English at all. Keeping in mind that before Shakespeare, the “English language” such as it was, was considered beneath “proper” Brits. Shakespeare marks the beginning of that change, so the French language influence carried on for a long time among the upper classes as a distinction.

          It’s pretty interesting to see this same kind of complex construction (from our perspective) in period writings, but also in many science papers today, where complex ideas are strung together in paragraph-long sentences in an attempt to capture the detail and nuance. Medical journals are particularly guilty of this.

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          Keeping contemporary weapons is not cowardice, it’s just smart. Intentionally disarming yourself is colossolly stupid. Pretending that the world isn’t dangerous is mental illness.