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I disagree with this post being removed. First of all, I think trans people who are afraid of the GOP’s genocidal actions against trans people should have room to express that fear. I’ve always said that still clinging to the idea that there is hope to save trans people in voting for Democrats is an understandable if wrong position. I empathize with it.
Second, I think there should be room in leftist circles to discuss whether lesser evilism and harm reduction are acceptable positions. I don’t think it should be dismissed as liberalism. I was a comunist who still believed in lesser evilism for a looooooong time and to this day I would vote Democrat in presidential elections if I lived in a state where my vote mattered. Honestly, with lesser evilism its more that I’ve accepted the party line without really understanding it rather than really truly getting why its wrong, so Ilike discussions about it to happen because I learn best through discussion.
Obviously I disagree with them that there is any hope in the Democratic party. I’m past that point. But I don’t think they said anything removable. Nothing that makes this space unsafe for Hexbears.
What got removed? Did I get removed? Is Hexbear scared of me? lol
Y’all define liberalism as anyone not 100% pro Xi Jinping Thought. A liberal is a proponent of capitalism right? I am not.
I’d like to point out in a binary system, i.e. “lesser evilism” vs “more evilism”, the choice should be clear. Voting Democrat is not about thinking the “lesser evil” will fix things, it’s about not making things unnecessarily worse.
You are still riddled with liberalism as a philosophy, regardless of your stated desires to end capitalism. It’s a framework within which you’ve learned literally everything up until you read works from feudal peoples or Marxists. But even pre-maexist/pre-liberalism works have been absorbed by liberal context and reinterpreted through that lens. You are still here.
Stalin wrote about anarchism as an idea which exists in every socio-economic system. It’s what happens when someone is part of that system but wanting to be independent of it. We don’t just want independence from capitalism, but the overthrow of it, and that’s why we are Marxists. I think there are anarchists (mostly only ever seen here on hexbear) that are real comrades which Stalin’s analysis missed, those that see the crushing of the state needing to happen and be pushed for faster. I fully agree but think patience is a better tactic unfortunately.
You are not that though, you are just the kind Stalin talked about
Votes are earned.
I disagree with this post being removed. First of all, I think trans people who are afraid of the GOP’s genocidal actions against trans people should have room to express that fear. I’ve always said that still clinging to the idea that there is hope to save trans people in voting for Democrats is an understandable if wrong position. I empathize with it.
Second, I think there should be room in leftist circles to discuss whether lesser evilism and harm reduction are acceptable positions. I don’t think it should be dismissed as liberalism. I was a comunist who still believed in lesser evilism for a looooooong time and to this day I would vote Democrat in presidential elections if I lived in a state where my vote mattered. Honestly, with lesser evilism its more that I’ve accepted the party line without really understanding it rather than really truly getting why its wrong, so Ilike discussions about it to happen because I learn best through discussion.
Obviously I disagree with them that there is any hope in the Democratic party. I’m past that point. But I don’t think they said anything removable. Nothing that makes this space unsafe for Hexbears.
Fair points.
What got removed? Did I get removed? Is Hexbear scared of me? lol
Y’all define liberalism as anyone not 100% pro Xi Jinping Thought. A liberal is a proponent of capitalism right? I am not.
I’d like to point out in a binary system, i.e. “lesser evilism” vs “more evilism”, the choice should be clear. Voting Democrat is not about thinking the “lesser evil” will fix things, it’s about not making things unnecessarily worse.
You are still riddled with liberalism as a philosophy, regardless of your stated desires to end capitalism. It’s a framework within which you’ve learned literally everything up until you read works from feudal peoples or Marxists. But even pre-maexist/pre-liberalism works have been absorbed by liberal context and reinterpreted through that lens. You are still here.
Stalin wrote about anarchism as an idea which exists in every socio-economic system. It’s what happens when someone is part of that system but wanting to be independent of it. We don’t just want independence from capitalism, but the overthrow of it, and that’s why we are Marxists. I think there are anarchists (mostly only ever seen here on hexbear) that are real comrades which Stalin’s analysis missed, those that see the crushing of the state needing to happen and be pushed for faster. I fully agree but think patience is a better tactic unfortunately.
You are not that though, you are just the kind Stalin talked about