• noride@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Those concessions don’t apply to their EV factories, both existing and new, meaning they are worthless in 5-10 years when they phase ICE out. They want, and frankly deserve, long term guarantees.

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      “The company said it had offered pay increases of more than 20% to permanent workers, raises of 26% for temporary workers, the return of cost-of-living adjustments, a ratification bonus, increased 401(k) contributions, additional paid time off and “no job loss due to EV battery plants,” among other things” https://www.axios.com/2023/10/12/uaw-strike-update-ford-shawn-fain

      Incorrect. And you’re dreaming if you think commercial trucks in particular (F-series and SuperDuty) move to all electric in the next 5-10 years

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        1 year ago

        As of 10/4:

        Ford has not agreed to restore defined-benefit pensions and company-financed health care in retirement for all workers. Ford says it is also opposed to a UAW demand to guarantee that future battery factories will offer the same pay and benefits as existing factories.

        The UAW says that GM still isn’t meeting the union’s demands on cost-of-living adjustment to wages. And GM hasn’t agreed to allow workers to strike over plant closures.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/10/04/uaw-strike-automaker-offers/

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          My article is from the 12th. Crazy thing about negotiations, your article from 10/4 is wrong. The date matters and you are providing outdated information.

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            1 year ago

            The article you linked doesn’t contradict, or even mention, the UAW demands and concerns I quoted from my article dated 10/4. Can you please provide an article stating that between the 4th and the time of your original comment, either of the specific concerns were addressed with concessions from Ford & GM? The meme is literally referencing the company’s failure to update their offer since the last negotiation meeting.

            Otherwise, I have to make the usual assumption of troll or disingenuous interlocutor.

            Edit: Yup, UAW states quite clearly that the offer hadn’t changed from two weeks ago. Please stop arguing in bad faith.

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        And you’re dreaming if you think commercial trucks in particular (F-series and SuperDuty) move to all electric in the next 5-10 years

        Check out the title of this article. GM is aiming to phase out ICE in 12 years. No it’s not Ford, and goals aren’t always met but the transition is happening sooner or later.

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        The only reason manufacturers make modern pickup trucks is because they’re the most profitable vehicle they make.

        They’re relatively cheap to make, can be sold for obscene prices, and people will buy them. They’re popular because of decades of effective marketing.