Not much. You really shouldn’t be going into grain bins, and if you you do get stuck you should call for help and shut off anything that’s making the grain move. If you have to go into the bin for some reason, there should be someone outside with you and you should have a safety rope to help pull you out. Covering your mouth won’t help for long if at all. Someone will need to put up fans to ventilate the bin. You will suffocate in a grain bin and I’ve lost friends who went into bins.
You’d think by now there would be some kind of emergency quick release or some such. I don’t know what but in any other industry I feel like there are regulations in place so the murder box has some safety features.
I’d imagine it’s just one of those things where the safety feature for the murder box is just properly labeling the murder box, and making sure people who go in it are covered in ropes and safety equipment to pull them out if it starts murdering them.
Like people who have to go work in confined spaces like sewer tunnels. You can’t really put safety gear into the tunnel, so you have to just make it hard to get there, label it, and make it possible to quickly get people out when it goes wrong.
True true, very good points. And apparently the murder box was indeed labeled.
and make it possible to quickly get people out when it goes wrong.
I think this is the part that needs work. If the only real solution is to cut a big hole in the side of the thing to let the grain out, maybe I don’t know, a door?
Like an emergency hatch that can be opened from the outside? Or even with a remote that the person inside could have on their person before entering. The remote could even be pressure activated so if pressure of the grain is crushing you it will automatically open the hatch.
I think they use a rope harness that keeps you from going down too far, and then they basically need to come dig you out if you do get pulled it.
That’s what I was implying with the sewer worker comparison, since they don’t get an escape hatch, just a harness, rope, and winches.
I’m willing to bet if you flipped to the next page after this diagram, it would say something along the lines of “and that’s why you always wear your harness”.
My guess would be that a door at bottom wouldn’t be able to let out enough material to free someone trapped at the top before it jammed up. When they empty them they only don’t jam because something is taking the grain away.
Can’t remember the video where I saw this (maybe smarter every day?) but if you’re not completely submerged they can use a tube/barrell they shove down around you and start scooping it out to release you.
So what do you do in this situation that you’ve fallen in to grain?
I imagine you might still be able to breath if you can keep your mouth covered.
Edit: I’m getting downvoted because I’m not familiar with grain suffocation? Ok there. 🙄
Edit again: oh they stopped. Thanks for not being jerks, everyone!
Not much. You really shouldn’t be going into grain bins, and if you you do get stuck you should call for help and shut off anything that’s making the grain move. If you have to go into the bin for some reason, there should be someone outside with you and you should have a safety rope to help pull you out. Covering your mouth won’t help for long if at all. Someone will need to put up fans to ventilate the bin. You will suffocate in a grain bin and I’ve lost friends who went into bins.
https://www.ndsu.edu/agriculture/ag-hub/publications/caught-in-grain
God damn that’s fucking terrifying
Has the Internet forgotten Witness ? Harrison Ford as Amish, come on!
Amishson Ford
That was really well written and horrible!
That “Never give up!” at the end, though.
You’d think by now there would be some kind of emergency quick release or some such. I don’t know what but in any other industry I feel like there are regulations in place so the murder box has some safety features.
I’d imagine it’s just one of those things where the safety feature for the murder box is just properly labeling the murder box, and making sure people who go in it are covered in ropes and safety equipment to pull them out if it starts murdering them.
Like people who have to go work in confined spaces like sewer tunnels. You can’t really put safety gear into the tunnel, so you have to just make it hard to get there, label it, and make it possible to quickly get people out when it goes wrong.
True true, very good points. And apparently the murder box was indeed labeled.
I think this is the part that needs work. If the only real solution is to cut a big hole in the side of the thing to let the grain out, maybe I don’t know, a door? Like an emergency hatch that can be opened from the outside? Or even with a remote that the person inside could have on their person before entering. The remote could even be pressure activated so if pressure of the grain is crushing you it will automatically open the hatch.
I think they use a rope harness that keeps you from going down too far, and then they basically need to come dig you out if you do get pulled it.
That’s what I was implying with the sewer worker comparison, since they don’t get an escape hatch, just a harness, rope, and winches.
I’m willing to bet if you flipped to the next page after this diagram, it would say something along the lines of “and that’s why you always wear your harness”.
My guess would be that a door at bottom wouldn’t be able to let out enough material to free someone trapped at the top before it jammed up. When they empty them they only don’t jam because something is taking the grain away.
Nope. There’s no way for air to get down there. It doesn’t filter through the grain. If it did, moisture would get in too.
If they don’t get you out quickly, you suffocate.
Every once in a while you read a story of someone that survived, it’s usually because they had a mask of some sort that filtered enough air through the grain so they could breathe. Like this guy: https://www.agweb.com/news/livestock/pork/descent-hell-farmer-escapes-corn-tomb-death
Sounds horrible!
Most important thing is to swim with the grain instead of against if otherwise you’ll drown. Thus the saying about “going against the grain”
Can’t remember the video where I saw this (maybe smarter every day?) but if you’re not completely submerged they can use a tube/barrell they shove down around you and start scooping it out to release you.
downvoting isn’t a sign of hate, but people ranking down a wrong statement.
maybe you’d rather more disinformation all over Lemmy?
Asking questions and speculation is not misinformation. If you thought I was an expert on the subject based on that comment, that’s on you.
It’s what you call a conversation. You know, what social media is supposed to be for.
I want to be corrected, so I can learn.
Not even “wrong” statements per se, just something that doesn’t contribute to the conversation.