But you’re not going with the heckin narrativerino!!! Nvm Switzerland actively encourages gun ownership, or Czechia has the same constitutional right to bear arms we do (to fight off invaders like the soviets and nazis due to historical events, hm sounds familiar) or Norway still allowing gun ownership after taking tests and showing competency!!!
The heckin narrativerino!!! All social democrat nations have banned guns!!! The UK is a nation we should be mimicking!!!
Fuck these losers, make citizens lives better. Remember they can’t take your rights if they have to take your life first.
This topic just sincerely pisses me off when people with the understanding of guns is equal to that of a toddler begin speaking. If you want to make something your enemy, at LEAST understand it.
You posted the equivalent of winning a shower argument with some machismo one man army daydreaming bullshit. The same exact reasoning far right morons use, what discussion is there to be had?
“Hey America, I know you guys are having a domestic terrorism issue: so why don’t we make the people that contribute to society in a positive way less able to defend themselves?”
It’s like you guys willfully ignore that there are literal fascists in this country that will not give up their guns.
On a very minor technicality, since society is a group of people, every person in that group contributes to society. Some of them contribute negatively to society but it is still technically a contribution.
All of that aside, given the recent state of human society, I feel like making property owners into felons for owning property that they legally purchased would only incentivize them to commit more felonious acts.
making property owners into felons for owning property that they legally purchased
I have a .22 “rifle”. Same gun as pictured, but shorter barrel with a stupid “handicap” stock to make it legal. After 14+ million of us bought one, the ATF said, “Nope. You’re a felon.” Aight. Mine stays in the safe at my private camp.
And what did we gain here? We took a .22LR, that constantly jams, and made me a felon for owning a thing I bought legally.
would only incentivize them to commit more felonious acts
Well, I don’t know about that, but I certainly have less respect for gun laws now.
And for you “high-capacity” mag banners; All of my guns, including this one, actually work far better with smaller mags. So… thanks for legislating that my gun makes killing more efficient?
I’m 52. Guess what we had and didn’t have when I was a kid.
Plenty of guns, and even laxer laws (excepting conceal carry!).
No mass shootings.
To be fair, I should include the mental health thing. I remember watching MTv as a teen in the late 80’s and they made a big thing of homelessness. I figured it had always been an issue but people ignored it and, as a kid, I was just then finding out.
Yeah, turns out we shut down our mental health centers. Probably a correlation there.
Let’s not forget crushing the middle and lower classes, taking away things for them to live for. That doesn’t cause you to hear voices but it certainly can’t help.
Did you look at that link?! Scrolling through this century, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll…
And let’s define “mass shooting”. We have to
at least agree that the definition is all over the place, and wildly different. And not, the wildly liberal source Mother Jones is on the far left. :) 6 or 818?
And I’m not hammering a technicality. What we think when we think “mass shooting” is clearly on the left of the chart.
Anyhow, shootings are clearly worse, despite more guns laws. (Excepting conceal carry laws! The gun people won’t admit it, but those laws have exploded!)
Exactly why we need to address the issues that are driving people to the edge instead of just banning stuff like that’ll work.
Banning stuff… like guns? Like every other developed nation has done? Which works?
Many countries have not banned guns but instead have proper mental health.
But you’re not going with the heckin narrativerino!!! Nvm Switzerland actively encourages gun ownership, or Czechia has the same constitutional right to bear arms we do (to fight off invaders like the soviets and nazis due to historical events, hm sounds familiar) or Norway still allowing gun ownership after taking tests and showing competency!!!
The heckin narrativerino!!! All social democrat nations have banned guns!!! The UK is a nation we should be mimicking!!!
Fuck these losers, make citizens lives better. Remember they can’t take your rights if they have to take your life first.
I literally can’t figure out what your point is from that incoherent rant
I live in Switzerland and have never once seen any encouragement to buy guns.
I agree with everything you said but holy fuck you sound obnoxious
This topic just sincerely pisses me off when people with the understanding of guns is equal to that of a toddler begin speaking. If you want to make something your enemy, at LEAST understand it.
“The US is turning fascist and the trains come next!”
I know. I’m old, have a fair grasp of history and have seen some scary fucking changes.
“Give us your guns!”
Well, no, I won’t.
“Tough guy! You gonna actually fight back?!”
Well, yes, I’m old. When you’re nearing end of days, it’s not as scary. I won’t seek a fight, I am a peaceful man. I am not harmless.
You fuckin loon lol
The solid commentary, not to mention the brevity, “the soul of wit”, is stunning here.
Go back to reddit and score you some points with bullshit like this.
OR, actually participate in the discussion.
In either case, this is neither helpful nor welcome.
You posted the equivalent of winning a shower argument with some machismo one man army daydreaming bullshit. The same exact reasoning far right morons use, what discussion is there to be had?
“Hey America, I know you guys are having a domestic terrorism issue: so why don’t we make the people that contribute to society in a positive way less able to defend themselves?”
It’s like you guys willfully ignore that there are literal fascists in this country that will not give up their guns.
On a very minor technicality, since society is a group of people, every person in that group contributes to society. Some of them contribute negatively to society but it is still technically a contribution.
All of that aside, given the recent state of human society, I feel like making property owners into felons for owning property that they legally purchased would only incentivize them to commit more felonious acts.
I have a .22 “rifle”. Same gun as pictured, but shorter barrel with a stupid “handicap” stock to make it legal. After 14+ million of us bought one, the ATF said, “Nope. You’re a felon.” Aight. Mine stays in the safe at my private camp.
And what did we gain here? We took a .22LR, that constantly jams, and made me a felon for owning a thing I bought legally.
Well, I don’t know about that, but I certainly have less respect for gun laws now.
And for you “high-capacity” mag banners; All of my guns, including this one, actually work far better with smaller mags. So… thanks for legislating that my gun makes killing more efficient?
Edited to account for the technicality.
I’m 52. Guess what we had and didn’t have when I was a kid.
Plenty of guns, and even laxer laws (excepting conceal carry!).
No mass shootings.
To be fair, I should include the mental health thing. I remember watching MTv as a teen in the late 80’s and they made a big thing of homelessness. I figured it had always been an issue but people ignored it and, as a kid, I was just then finding out.
Yeah, turns out we shut down our mental health centers. Probably a correlation there.
Let’s not forget crushing the middle and lower classes, taking away things for them to live for. That doesn’t cause you to hear voices but it certainly can’t help.
you could have said less mass shootings
No mass shootings though, that’s not true at all
Did you look at that link?! Scrolling through this century, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll…
And let’s define “mass shooting”. We have to at least agree that the definition is all over the place, and wildly different. And not, the wildly liberal source Mother Jones is on the far left. :) 6 or 818?
And I’m not hammering a technicality. What we think when we think “mass shooting” is clearly on the left of the chart.
Anyhow, shootings are clearly worse, despite more guns laws. (Excepting conceal carry laws! The gun people won’t admit it, but those laws have exploded!)
What’s your point? I literally can’t figure it out
We had far fewer mass shootings? I think I did a poor job trying to convey that.