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    So this is weirder than it looks at a glance.

    That is not an LLM-generated search result. That is a funny ha-ha mistake a LLM made that then some guy compiled in his blog about AI.

    Google then did their usual content-stealing thing, which probably does involve some ML, but not in the viral ChatGPT way and made that card by quoting the blog quoting the LLM making the mistake. And then everybody quoted that because it’s weird and funny and it replicates all the viral paranoia about this stuff.

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            It will try but unfortunately in the process of deleting your os the shell process of deleting will be affected and stop there.

            However it can be savely assumed that you won’t be able to boot into it again and that your data is gone.

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              Isn’t the shell process loaded into RAM? In fact the entire session is, wouldn’t it be fine until you try to access a file somehow?

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                Deleting acesses the file, also background Services will refresh their ram at some point sth will break everything before you can delete it. Well maybe with an nvme and fast cpu you might be fast enough

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            Theoretically yes, but pretty much every modern Linux installation has some guards built in to the rm command to prevent it from deleting everything. Adding the flag --no-preserve-root removes this and gives you the classic DFE experience. (even without the flag though rm -rf / will still majorly fuck up your system.)

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          I mean, as long as you are ok with also nuking all search engines.

          To be honest, text chatbots have done very little to move the needle one way or the other, and all search engines are barely usable right now, chatbots or no. I had some hopes for an AI implementation with speciific training on how to parse search results, but all we’re getting is the first couple of results read back to us.

          So yeah, I get that people needed a new bad guy after crypto imploded, but it’s a shame that the discourse became what it is, in that it both fails to pay off on tech that is actually pretty cool when used right and it leaves a lot of old tech that is getting noticeably worse off the hook.

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            Just throwing in my 2 cents. I swapped to DDG from google about 2 weeks ago and I’ve been very impressed with the results. It feels literally impossible to find accurate results on google if there exists a product remotely similar to your search terms. The last straw for me was having an entire search page populated with similes of my search term. No “did you mean?” or “including results for…”, just straight up random fucken products that happened to have one word similar to what I was searching for.

            I’m this close to paying for Kagi. DDG (or bing, really) drops one ball and I’m there. I’m so sick of fighting with search engines. The environment hasn’t changed, it’s just enshittification. And AI was never going to fix anything, it’s just a new and exciting enshittifier.

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              I have been on DDG for ages, but honestly it doesn’t solve the underlying SEO problems and I still find the searches lack depth.

              As for Kagi… look, if I’m not willing to pay Google to remove ads from Youtube I’m not willing to pay for search just because it got crappy. I was here before search engines and I can live without them again if I have to. Or, you know, with slightly crappier ones if I have to. I survived AltaVista. I can do this again.

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        Lol “AI invasion”? If that’s what this is you “lost” over a decade ago. LLMs are a massive leap in NLP technology, but AI backs everything already.

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    Hubspot AI chat bot told me to go three levels deep into a menu that doesn’t exist, to click a button that doesn’t exist to enable a service that doesn’t exist to solve a problem I had.

    My company pays a 5-figure yearly sum for this service 👍

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        maybe I should start asking it impossible questions

        “how do I stop contacts from enabling the email flange during the squeej phase of marketing?”

        edit: gottem lmao

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      I got to review some AI customer service chats and never did I see it handle an issue from start to finish. It was pretty decent at setting the table for the human element. Unfortunately, the human element fails way too often but that’s for another team to solve, lol.

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    Is there a uBlock filter list for AI SEO websites? If not then I guess I should make one, it would make my life so much easier especially when looking for a product

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    For niche topics, search engine AI is less than worthless. It produces an unacceptably high proportion of misinformation.

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      Especially with the built in biases that the companies that use it build in. Try searching for anything that can even tangentially be defined as a product for sale and that is ALL your results are going to show.

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    This joke is really old now.

    And yes, even if such mistakes are funny at first glance, it doesn’t change the fact that the field of AI has developed incredibly in the last year. And this development actually has the potential to completely change our economy. And not only that.

    No, I’m not fun at parties.

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        A lot more companies are making and saving quite a lot of money because of it

        People downplaying the value of AI are like people in 1993 talking about how the Internet is just a playground for nerds.

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          Most companies are still piggybacking off of big tech because of the scale of LLMs. If big tech companies are having problems then everyone else will sooner or later. The more simple ones can probably be done on worse machines but not all and certainly not something on the scale of ChatGPT

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            They’re “piggybacking off of big tech” the way every company that uses PowerPoint does

            I’m sorry man but this comment just laughs in the face of reality. The use of AI across the board is skyrocketing.

            I no longer need a video team, or to outsource video content creation, because of a tool we get for $20/month. This is the tiniest fraction of the currebtly-deployed impact.

            My last company implemented AI-run workforce planning, AI-enabled call monitoring that cut out QA team more than in half, and AI chat systems that freed up 80% of our chat team to transition to Live.

            That’s 2 companies. There are hundreds of AI products out there. AI will be everywhere in less than a decade.

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              I no longer need a video team, or to outsource video content creation, because of a tool we get for $20/month

              Not disproving the AI will kill too many jobs alegation.

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              Are you running your PowerPoint directly off of Azure? You must be having the most greatest slideshow on earth then.

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                You must be having the most greatest slideshow on earth the

                Your disingenuous post aside, I kind of do, yeah

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        Ah yes, the trend of every new technological development ever. Apparently investment is “hemorrhaged money” until it’s profitable.

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          And then it will only be profitable for a time until the people have no money to spend cuz no jobs.

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            The full automation of the economy won’t be for a century or more, and as manual labor dries up there will be new work in robotics technician fields and AI development and training.

            I’m not saying we don’t need to prepare with taxation and UBI, but the jobs aren’t just going to disappear overnight, that’s ridiculous.

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          You didn’t even bother reading it. This isn’t counting investment, it’s straight up losing money right now, not counting investment. Microsoft’s customer model charges $10 a month/user to use it and it’s turned out to cost $30 a month/user. The other big firms are seeing similar costs.

          These LLM require huge amounts of processing, then when your users are spending resources to do very simple tasks, which is basically all the models are useful for right now, it costs a stupid amount of money to do stupid things.

          This is not to say that it cant be useful in the future, or smaller purpose built models can’t be useful. But these vast generic models literally hemorrhage money as it stands.

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            Some features are meant to drive engagement, not revenue. Some products are sold at a loss to drive engagement. This article is a very simplistic view of how technology has always worked for a product in it’s infancy.

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      Listen here, robot: Reminder that the Nothing forever hiccup just happened in February of this year. And struggles with POC facial recognition has been a source of discrimination still even now. You’re really trying to sell yourself as better than you are, AI. But you Can’t fool me.

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      also, no one said the AI that is going to replace everyone’s jobs and kill the economy because we don’t have a society or economical system that can survive that amount of job losses inside of it was going to be good, or accurate.

      the goal of ai isn’t to be good or accurate, it’s to seem plausible.

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        The history of chatbots for support purposes show us that jobs will be replaced not when they can be done as good, but good enough, and what “enough” means is going to be a race to the bottom kind of situation over time.

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      Lemmy is the worst place to get your information on the field of AI or really tech in general lol. “Technology” is a bad word and the only upvoted posts are just false confirmation bias that tech corporations are in some sort if imaginary “death spiral”.

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        Dude for real. Even the “technology” community is just people shitting on everything from eVTOLs to AI, should be called c/luddites instead.

        Most of lemmy doesn’t even understand how this shit works let alone has the knowledge to be an authority on it. There’s constant “oh this is going to make the company go under, stupid AI can’t possibly take our jobs!” Nonsense. Yet the cash keeps rolling in and AI becomes more and more integrated into every company.

        Hell our cloud engineering team is currently building an in house model to assist data entry level workers with accessing the necessary data they need to do their jobs, and my team has used it to set up automated SFTP backups of our network gear.

        It’s not going anywhere, and whenever someone says it’s useless because you can mislead it intentionally, or that it’s just a gimmick cause they “can’t see what it’s good for,” it’s a safe bet they’re just some gig economy worker who can’t conceive of a world outside their bubble.

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          Cash keeps rolling

          That has been because of the liquidity. Now see what happens as liquidity dries up.

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    spelled with a “K” sound

    I’m not even a linguist but reading this little snippet already makes me want to smash my head against a wall.

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    No matter how dumb AI is, it will be an improvement over a lot of people.

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    It’s always a race to the bottom to create the most content for the least amount of money and effort, isn’t it? The problem is, Ai generated content is crap.

    “Water can be hot or cold. You shouldn’t drink too much of it. Water can be stored in containers so it won’t spill. You can cook things in it.”

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      Damn I’ve just been waiting for it to rain and standing outside with my mouth open. This container thing is a game changer!

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    People are being banned off the internet for misinformation and being replaced by AI bots who spout… misinformation.

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    Please quote me what this character said in this public domain story

    Chatgpt: (Quotes wrong character)

    No, that is a different character

    Chatgpt: (invents hybrid character)

    Sends it a link to the public domain text

    Chatgpt: I can’t follow links

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    Its fun when you ask it a question and you counter and it says “You’re right”.