With Putin talking about the orthodox church being holy and using to justify some conservative bullshit, all I can remember was the bolsheviks going around the country proudly declaring that cities were now “officially godless” and redistributing the church’s gold amongst the people and using it to pay for electrification projects.

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        My history teacher said that Russians still like Lenin because Russians are naturally disposed to like strong leaders or some racist gibberish like that, rather than, idk, the massive improvements in quality of life.

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            I live on terf island so she dislikes Americans as well but then pulls out the old “America bad but Britain fine for some reason” line

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    It is disheartening to see how seven decades of Marxist-Leninist ideological influence vanished within a few years, leaving Russia as a nationalist chud-fest.

    • People were just hiding their religion back then. It was one of the most stupid descisions of the USSR, people who supported socialism were alienated because they couldn’t pray and their preachers had to go into hiding or were deported.

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          Because that was an extremly shortsighted thing to do, there is little here to defend or talk positively about. It didn’t work and was counterproductive. Though to be fair, most Mullahs weren’t deported, they just left or went into hiding. I have no idea about the christians.

          This is definitly something we have to learn from and should not repeat.

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                Completely forbidding anything that isn’t a new cultural development will lead to erosion of trust. You have to wean people off old ways of thinking by being better than their old support systems.

                If socialism is going to win, it’s going to be by just being better, not by banning old ways of thought (exceptions for old ways of thought that require oppression of individuals or groups).