• GreenM@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Yes but it doesn’t mean it’s excusable or justifiable to murder innocent people.

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      1 year ago

      Damn another strawman! He didn’t say “ehh let’s forgive him, he had it rough”. It’s just an explanation for why it probably happened.

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        1 year ago

        They claim it’s 100% societies fault. So even while trying to defend they remove all agency from this guy. Yes, let’s work to improve systems to give everyone a better shake, but don’t discard his own horrible actions.

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        1 year ago

        Post itself sugests it’s society fault not his as if making him innocent. If someone is strawman it is you for picking things out of context.

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          1 year ago

          He is morally innocent though which is the point, even if he’s criminally guilty. The strawman is hearing “we can’t be surprised and we can still feel bad for him” and equating that to saying “he should be let go!”. He can still be guilty for his actions even though it’s almost entirely society’s fault.

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            1 year ago

            He is morally innocent

            No he’s not, because once again the vast majority of people who have bad childhoods and mental challenges don;t go murdering people. He is in no way morally innocent.

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              1 year ago

              The fact that anybody thinks otherwise is really suspicious. Some dudes in suits are going to start monitoring this thread.

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      1 year ago

      Nobody is justifying anything. If we want to stop these things from happening we need to actually understand why they happen.

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        1 year ago

        Post itself suggests its somehow excusable I disagree.
        To me makes sense to stea money but to kill other just for sake of killing them is closer to serial killer thinking than desperation .