• stella@lemm.ee
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    Dang. Imagine living in California and complaining about not getting paid enough.

    Talk about privilege, lol.

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      You do realize California has a high cost of living, right? It’s not like everyone in CA gets paid a million a year.

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        That’s irrelevant.

        Anyone in California can move to cheaper states and get more bang for their buck. They don’t want to because they feel they’re entitled to the Cali lifestyle.

        There is no excuse. Only greed and those who support it.

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          What a heaping pile of garbage.

          • not “anyone” can just get up and move at will. People have families to support - often extending outside their own household. Expenses going toward living in the state can eat up any bit of money that might go into savings to move.
          • not everyone wants to live in California just for “lifestyle”. There’s a range of reasons why you would live there - or anywhere else.
          • if you’re suggesting that the people who can move - like health care professionals and academics - do so instead of the government doing something about the situation, you should look and see what happens whenever large numbers of them leave their states (I.e. Texas or Florida)
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            What are you talking about? It’s easier and cheaper to leave California than it is to continue living in it.

            Anyone complaining about ‘not having enough money’ while living in California thinks they’re exempt from the most basic tenants of economics: supply and demand.

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              If you can think of some way that a family who has no savings and is living paycheck to paycheck can simply get up and move themselves to another state in any reasonable way…I think there are a lot of people who would love to hear it.

              That last though is the average “pull oneself up by one’s bootstraps” line of thinking that is keeping millions of Americans in poverty.

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                If you can think of some way that a family who has no savings and is living paycheck to paycheck can simply get up and move themselves to another state in any reasonable way…I think there are a lot of people who would love to hear it.

                I never said it would be simple. How many families in California are living paycheck to paycheck while eschewing all luxuries?

                I think there are a lot of people who would love to hear it.

                It’s called history. If you paid attention in class, you’d know that people have migrated with way less than the Californians who “don’t have enough money.”

                That last though is the average “pull oneself up by one’s bootstraps” line of thinking that is keeping millions of Americans in poverty.

                No. It’s “don’t sit around and wait for other people to solve your problems when you can take step to solve them yourself.”

                The problem is that these people think they’re entitled to live in one of the most expensive places on the planet. They truly believe that supply and demand does not apply to them, and they need more wealth before the children who go without: food, water, shelter, electricity and education.

                The closer we get to the root of the problem, the more people we’ll find that contribute to it and the fewer we’ll find that are willing to admit it.

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                  It’s really imperative that we stop analyzing everything from the perspective of the past and what worked in the past while ignoring both the new possibilities we have now and the differences from the past. Just because people in the past were able to migrate with less means neither that they can do so now nor - more importantly - that they should have to. There is absolutely zero reason these days to have tends of thousands of people living homeless, with numerous millions more living in or on the verge of poverty. Saying “just leave and move somewhere else” is not a solution that makes good use of the available resources that we have.

                  That’s the root of the problem. Complacency and elitism. Living in the past. I won’t make assumptions on your feelings or beliefs, but the same points that you are making are the same ones that those at the top constantly make to legitimize their negligence to do any bit of good for the rest of us. Because those very people would love to continue living in the past. Why would they want to see change?

                  And believe me, I understand that for some people it makes perfect sense to move. I’d imagine that many of these CSU faculty have that option available to them as they are likely in much more fortunate situations. Telling them though to leave - or creating and maintaining the conditions to support that - is the worst thing they could possibly do. Texas, Florida, and other states made these same decisions - not through economics but through social policy - and pushed out doctors and academics. Now, health care access has plummeted and numerous educators have left the state or exited the field. All at the detriment of the people who don’t have the ability to get out themselves.

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                    Okay. Let me know when these problems get solved doing something I don’t suggest.

                    I can wait.

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          Anyone in California can move to cheaper states and get more bang for their buck.

          Are you 14? I’m honestly asking because most adults would realize there’s a correlation between cost of living and the paycheck you can expect to bring home in any given area. Most adults probably also realize that anyone living in Bakersfield isn’t getting the “Cali lifestyle” that you’re so obviously jealous of.

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            Yes, and you actually have a chance at owning property outside of California even if you make less. People in Cali are just passing a bunch of money around at the top. There is no excuse for most of them to be ‘stuck’ there. It’s not ‘impossible’ for them to leave. They just don’t want to because they feel entitled to live in Cali. They think supply and demand doesn’t apply to them, lol.

            You’re clearly just upset I’m calling out greed and excess wealth for what it is. Probably because you don’t want to acknowledge that you, yes you, have the power to change your life.

            Anyways, keep sitting around and waiting for others to solve your problems. I’m sure it will work out, eventually.

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              they feel entitled to live in Cali

              Imagine feeling entitled to living where you were born. The audacity!

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          What an odd take. Since you’re not California you’re basically saying hey look at those people over there they’re taking care of their own business. And then you decide to butt in.

          What’s your skin in the game You don’t live in California You don’t work in California You don’t vote in California why do you care?

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            What are you talking about? I don’t have to live in California to point out that they are passing a bunch of money around at the top.

            You’re probably saying it’s an odd take because you don’t like to hear criticism of wealth, unless it’s a billionaire.