Totally get why it’s infuriating but it does look pretty cool. Especially when it’s so subtle you don’t notice it easily without a closeup.

      • Stamets@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
        125·
        1 year ago

        And I don’t. When you start deciding what is and isn’t canon all by yourself you end up fracturing the community to an enormous degree. Look at Star Wars. That entire community is filled with constant toxicity because of how hateful people get over disagreements of what is and isn’t real or what does and doesn’t “understand Star Wars”.

        The behavior fosters nothing positive because there is nothing positive about the basis of what you’re doing. If you are ignoring canon and saying “They don’t get it” then that’s inherently negative. Everything from then on is based off of a bitterness and hatred about what came before. You will always descend and spiral into some depressing group of people who are now believing themselves to be the sole deciders of what is and isn’t canon because they are the only ones who could possibly understand what (input thing here) truly stands for and is about.

        What you’re advocating for is just gatekeeping but about canon instead of fans. It’s… really gross behavior and frankly egotistical. Something can be canon without you liking it. Simply because you disagree with it doesn’t give you the right to say “Oh, no, I’m ignoring this as canon because it doesn’t fit with what I want” while engaging with the fandom as a whole. If you don’t like it and want to pretend it doesn’t exist, fine, but when you start going into full on discussions and injecting that bitterness and cynicism into it? That’s just repugnant.

        I’ll be avoiding that like the plague, thank you very much.

          • Stamets@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
            89·
            1 year ago

            What an astounding statement from a Star Trek fan. The show stands for peace, love, equality, nah. Fuck that. Hate everything around you and project negativity into every aspect of a discussion.

            Wow. Have fun with that.

                • Stamets@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
                  87·
                  1 year ago

                  Neither of you were joking. You’ve both doubled on that position so you can’t fall back on the “Oh I was kidding” explanation here. Especially considering that within a couple of minutes of posting that comment, every single recent comment or post I made was randomly downvoted.

                  Moreover, you’re both desperately attempting to move the goalpost here. You never started this as a debate about the art. You openly, both, started saying that the people behind it didn’t understand Star Trek and therefore it wasn’t canon. If you wanted to actually discuss the art you would have done so honestly and genuinely, not try to shoehorn it in after the fact and claim that I’m trying to stifle critiques. No. You both came at this in a hostile and hateful fashion and are shocked that someone has dared to point that out. You never said this was about the art. Don’t try and pretend that’s what you’re doing now.

                  Call me a dick all you want. I’ve seen what makes you cheer and I couldn’t give less of a replicated tribble about your boos.

                  I wish you both all the best but I’m going to take my leave here and just avoid the both of y’all from now on. Take care.