Listen, i’m not saying his time isn’t coming to an end at the elite level. But one poor season in 23 years does not call for some of the revisionism occurring here lately. Arguably, the defences he’s still producing (2022, 2021, 2020) have kept the Patriots from rebuilding properly. It isn’t easy in this league to escape from 8-8 hell without a franchise QB.
“Brady made him”. You can use whatever stat you want here, but let’s use the most basic one. Points allowed per game. Of course there are influences here. Time of possession, special teams, ability to generate turnovers. But at its most basic level this is what determines the result of a game.
Brady had 20 seasons as a Patriot. He had a top 10 defence in 17 of them. In 3 super bowl victories, the Patriots played 3 of the top 15 offences in NFL history. 01 Rams, 16 Falcons and 18 Rams. 17 points, 22 points(pick six), 3 points. Even throw the record breaking 04 Colts in there, 3 pts. If we change to PTS per drive, he still has 15 top 10 defences!
Manning had 4, Rodgers had 3, Brees had 2. All three had great ball security and time of possession.
Is Brady the GOAT, yes. His consistency in clutch moments puts him ahead of the likes of Peyton and Rodgers. Did he make Bill the greatest defensive mind in history, no!
Brady record when scoring 20+in the playoffs: 32-4. Rodgers is 12-9 in this statistic for a direct comparison.
Average finish in points per drive among notable QBs
Brady: 9th
Rivers: 15th
Peyton: 18th
Rodgers: 18th
Brees: 20th
Mahomes: 20th
And we are trying to pretend Bill didn’t give Brady a significant advantage over his peers? Another 2 super bowls as a DC.
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Not fat enough.
The math that cannot be squared is that, strictly as a head coach, Belichick hasn’t really achieved anything significant, independent of Tom Brady. And he’s had a lot of years to try. Every team he’s coached with any other QB has simply not done anything great.
Where’s our notorious BB hater at?
People are slandering BB? He was coaching the 86 and 90 Giants defense two of the best all time and that was almost 40 years ago
It isn’t easy in this league to escape from 8-8 hell without a franchise QB.
Hell, it’s not that easy to escape 9-8/8-9 hell even with a franchise QB gestures at flair
The fact that you have to try and explain away Brady’s contributions to those teams is telling. When Brady won in Tampa Bay it sealed the book on Belechick, whether it’s true or not.
I just have to roll my eyes when I see people say it was all Brady. Those first three super bowls are all Bill, elite defense, elite special teams. There’s a lot of Josh McDaniels slander too given his accomplishments.
Eric Mangini could’ve won those Super Bowls with Brady. Belichek is a fraud.
Every sports memory I could possibly dream up actually happened in my lifetime because of a team coached by this guy. It’s not going well right now but I think I forgot about 2001 to 2018 is insane
Anything other than In Bill We Trust is bandwagon bullshit as far as I’m concerned. That man gave me the best 20 years of my sports life, the least I can do is stick it out with him as he closes the lid on his career over the next few years.
He also fucked the jets harder than anyone in history which buys him all the good will I possess.
Man people truly are overly sensitive on Reddit
HAS WENT
Just take it from the fans of teams that had to play him every single year, twice a year. He’s a defensive mastermind, who got fairly lucky getting a QB like Brady, but probably would’ve been a very successful coach even without him. Together they were simply unfair
I think most of the slander comes from his extremely outdated and conservative doing as a GM
Belichick has done nothing since the GOAT left him. Sub .500 record, no future for the team, very few cornerstones to build around (all of them on defese). He set up his QB to fail with the worst coordinators in history last year, and has draft record is as good as it’s been in the last 10 years (worst in the league).