It’s not genocide because population is going up
is textbook Holocaust denial. Like “exhibits at Auschwitz” textbook.
the best bit is:
because they already reject a huge body of evidence that proves otherwise, they’ve stumbled into literally deconstructing their own Uighur genocide narrative with their own dogshit definitions
they’ve already forgotten that ever happened
until the next time they open a thread about China, at which point they’ll forget about Israel and Palestine
the liberal brainpan can only conceptualise one completely individual idea at a time
- The Uyghur’s aren’t being genocided because number go up.
i’ve seen people claim that about the uighurs. (iirc the real thing is that ethnic minorities weren’t held to the one child policy.)
I think it’s a weak argument with the Uighur genocide to point to increasing population, but to be fair the full argument is that the population is increasing AND there’s no refugee crisis AND there’s literally no evidence of genocide at all that wasn’t just the made up ramblings of Adrian Zenz.
There’s more Uyghurs, and they’re living longer, and they’re more educated, and they have better housing conditions, and they make more money, all taken together makes it very hard to make out genocide.
Yeah if the government wanted to do a genocide why would they exclude the allegedly genocided minorities from the harsh population control laws. Like they’re literally making a law to decrease the population. You’d think that would be the perfect time to target it at minorities unfairly if you wanted to do genocide, but they didn’t.
I think it’s more about that they were excluded from the one child policy.
holy shit that very last line caught me off guard
Fuckin right. At first I was like damn these are some shit takes. Then that last line. Fuckin yiiiiiikes.
Sam Harrism intensifies
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“The US has done more genocide and gotten away with it so it is fine”
is a hell of a take
Every time I see “bad thing happened somewhere else therefore bad thing happening is fine” takes, I get more and more disgusted.
Some of you redditor liberals seriously voted to federate with these mask-off fascists.
Sh.itjust.genocides
oh hey look, poobsessed gronk goat doing nazi shit. how very suprising
So convenient how all these freaks ignore the in part part of the “In whole or in part” wording of the UN definition of genocide
It isn’t real genocide unless it comes from Hitler’s last days of fighting a losing war, otherwise it’s just sparkling ethnic cleansing.
Behold the wages of both sides @Civility@hexbear.net debate perversion.
Wtf is going on with that instance? Like why haven’t they scrubbed that user off their site, we’ve been clowning on them for like months now.
they are intentionally targeting civilian infrastructure because they want to ethnically cleanse the region. they have said this again and again and again. The fucking “well what is a genocide, really?” when government officials are talking about how Palestinians aren’t human and need to be purged is such horseshit.
The second dipshit trying to say you have to kill all of them for it to be genocide is also just wrong. The UN definition states that genocide is a variety actions taken “with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”.
What Israel is doing is genocide, with no room for debate, and both these people should get the
I’m surprised I haven’t seen some
connect xinjiang to people shooting down the growth rates charts on Gaza. It was used heavily by leftists as a point to cut through the Xinjiang bullshit.What they don’t seem to realise is that it worked for leftists there because forced sterilisation for the cause of an ethnic Han supremacist takeover was part of the myth, not just murdering 2 million people in non-existent industrial deathcamps that also didn’t show up in the numbers.
I mean for that reason specifically that argument seemed very poorly reasoned to me. Makes it way too easy for them to retreat to less absurd claims of things that are still not happening, but still genocide, like forced secularization and cultural suppression.
Why is it always fucking goat what the fuck is wrong with them
more like sh.itjustdont.work amirite
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Sounds like we need organized groups of hexbear posters combing through federated threads to find and report antisemitic zionism in the lemmyverse.
Thanks goat.
Please do! I want you to hold my community to the strictest, most fair standards you put upon yourselves.
Perhaps that way we can find some common ground eventually? I’m not opposed to the idea. Even been talking to a few different members of this community already (in private, of course).
Please do! I want you to hold my community to the strictest, most fair standards you put upon yourselves.
Stop playing games. You think you’re the first person to believe they’re clever and can play games with us here?
Absolutely nobody believes the community that chooses SJW as its acronym specifically to attract an edgelord conservative crowd is acting in good faith, and never will.
You honestly have to think we’re completely fucking stupid.
Tell us who those members are so we can ban their asses for talking to you
excited to squad up in the merkava armored posting vehicle and watch tiktoks with the boys before its time to unload the 50 into the al-shit.just hospital.
“It’s a genocide, but it’s the Palestinians’ fault” is actually a worse take than denying genocide entirely. Fuck yourself. Mods, ban this piece of shit. Hope you die painfully.
Enjoy your racist shithole of a community
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Wow you got a new racist image for your anti communist sub. Progress!
Yes, you’re saying it’s real and that is okay for Israel to do it, we can read your own words.
No–the death of innocents is never okay. Where did I say it’s okay?
I specifically mentioned that it does not justify Israel’s violence and pointed out that they were killing innocents well before the creation of Hamas and other terrorist groups from that area.
Likewise you can also view my SJW account where I point out that Israel is indeed performing genocide onto Gaza and that Israel cannot be trusted
There’s some fair clause that it is a genocide, though if it is, it goes both ways. That and most of the conditions that Palestine and Gaza put themselves in are from their own mistakes and faults in the past,
genocide, though if it is, goes both ways.
You cast doubt on it being a genocide and claim that it’s the citizens of Palestine’s fault for being genocided in the screenshot you’re using to defend yourself.
Also,
Attacking their neighbouring countries and Europe.
When has any Palestinian group attacked Europe?
I don’t think saying some fair clause is doubt that it is indeed genocide. I’ve made multiple comments already claiming that it is indeed a genocide. I mean, come on, separating people by their creed? That’s genocide.
I don’t blame the citizens either, they need safety and prosperity, and it is never their fault for what violent men do. However, terrorists have made peace treaties, especially that of the Oslo Accords, rather difficult for both sides to maintain peace. Terrorist attacks, Israel responds with more violence, terrorists respond with even more violence, and so on and so forth. It’s awful.
When has any Palestinian group attacked Europe?
Roald Dahl famously said:
“There is a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity, maybe it’s a kind of lack of generosity towards non-Jews. I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere.”
You would agree that this is an antisemitic statement, yes? That it puts blame on Jews for their own genocide?
How is this statement:
That and most of the conditions that Palestine and Gaza put themselves in are from their own mistakes and faults in the past
Not of a similar character?
Likewise you can also view my SJW account where I point out that Israel is indeed performing genocide onto Gaza and that Israel cannot be trusted
So… I took you up on this and, well:
I don’t know if this is a regionalism where “point out Israel cannot be trusted” means “defend Israel killing medical personnel and bombing hospitals” or something.
welcome to the revolution, comrade goat
next time, don’t come back you bastard
