So yeah title says it all, currently around 8 months into a new hospital position and I’ve been extending my feelers out and doing job apps and got back invites to the start of preliminary interviews for some other jobs (mainly cuss there is likely going to be no significant pay raises for all us new hires until 2 years out so fuck that).

Bring this up to parents though and they have the weirdest attitude as though I’m betraying my company as well as shooting myself in the foot even though if I got some of these positions I’m interviewing for I’d see a huge pay bump and really good benefits (one of them is a state gig and has a damned good pension plan with only 5 years to be vested fully).

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      The slightly younger Xer junior boomers also have no idea how much “open offices” fucking suck for anyone who isn’t a dudebro social parasite that needs to make noise and harass coworkers and subordinates all day.

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        Every day the noise and lights and constant interruptions/task changing are driving me insane and I’m so fucking drained I can’t jump through all the hoops to look for a new job

        I’ll probably just have a massive nervous breakdown and send a resignation after I leave and can’t stop crying for hours

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    The fucked up bit is that they are back writing their own history. Data shows people job hopped way more in the 60’s and 70’s than now. Job hopping us a sign if a healthy economy.

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    I live in Japan, and it’s insane here. I get judged both for changing jobs and spending too much time in deadend ESL jobs with no hope of a promotion. I once got caught off-guard at an interview because it was my first one in 2 years and I’d forgotten that they’d want a reason for why I left a job more than 15 years ago.

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    Why did boomers have kids anyway? They all seem to hate us. My dad loves reminding me how he didn’t really want kids and how he hated my mom. Why the fuck did you marry and impregnate here then?!?!?!?

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        I’ve meet a lot of millennials who say their parents acted annoyed and off put by them, or just flat out say they didn’t want them like mine. I’ve meet boomers who say they hate their kids. I think there is a trend here.

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      Why did boomers have kids anyway? They all seem to hate us.

      That is a really good question. Even if they don’t say they hate us, the fact that they got theirs and kicked away the ladder, after selling us a bill of goods about college meaning we’ll all be set. Then enjoying like 25 years of avacado toast and millenials are killing the x industry bullshit, never asking why we don’t actually have houses. Seems like hate to me.

      They put their parents in homes and are keeping us from having them. Its fascinating how in virtually one generation they completely broke how families have lived and taken care of each other for like 100,000 years.

      Disclaimer: generational stuff is bullshit, and “not all boomers” or whatever random boomer defenders need to here.

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        Disclaimer: generational stuff is bullshit, and “not all boomers” or whatever random boomer defenders need to here.

        People say this, but idk who, and I can’t find it myself, but someone here posts stats sometimes that seem to back up the stereotype. Boomers weren’t only more right leaning than their kids, but even their parents, apparently the silent generation was more progressive than Boomers.

        And while everyone likes to focus on the counter culture of the 60s and 70s, in reality the far right was doing well with the youth back then too. The 70s was actually a great time for young republicans groups. The hippies were anything a reaction to the reactionary tendencies of their peers.

        Idk what to blame it one but it does seem this one generation did veer way more regressive than most others.

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          Idk what to blame it one but it does seem this one generation did veer way more regressive than most others.

          They’re are material reasons for this. Its just still very shocking and feels very personal if you had the misfortune to have them as parents.

          The perception of what is normal to boomers is so extermely abnormal to basically all of humanity. They lived through an exterme anomaly but instead of being aware or greatful, they instead believe that the extreme prosperity and privelege enjoyed by white Americans during that time is actually the norm for all people.

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      It’s a combination of societal norms to get married and have kids and the instinctual drive most people have to have sex (which obviously leads to kids). The societal norm of having kids is likely due to economic concerns because for most of history children would provide free agricultural labour. This will probably slowly shift as having kids is now an economic drain because we don’t want kids to work in the mines.

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    You don’t even really hear “teammates” or “employees” anymore. It’s “associates” and “Individual Contributor”. There is no such thing as a team, we are all just individual and discrete nodes in a collection, but no teams. It’s just so slimey that corporations have utterly sandblasted the very idea of teams away from the modern language. Everything is so individuated even things like workplace safety is your responsibility. To me it really shows how utterly alienated we are at work, even alienated from our work. Job hopping is the logical outcome of making everyone a team of 1.

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      I have mainly the healthcare perspective on horrid corporate cultures, but yes workplace safety in a hospital is insane especially with the cases of abuse and assault I’ve seen from patients towards healthcare workers, overall that the push towards “picking up extra shifts” and just the combined physical and mentally taxing labor has made me push towards outpatient work cuss fuck getting myself broken by a hospital system that will replace me with a traveler by weeks end if I died.

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    I think back in their days, staying at a company actually did work out to being paid more whereas it’s flipped these days. I’ve had these same discussions with my boomer parents too.

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    It’s legal, it’s normal, people upset about “mercenary” attitudes for fucking jobs should experience being out of money lol (“mercenary” as in going to the highest bidder, not killing for money, lol). They are just mad we are playing their game without their shitty houserules that say to ignore the rules that help us

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      Some interviewers definitely care about length of time at your previous jobs. I interview people for software development jobs and I’m a developer myself. I’m not going to pass up on someone for it or anything, but if a person has left a recent job in less than a year I want to know why. I don’t want to spend 3 months getting someone up to speed on our project just to have them leave 3 months later.

      For a lot of jobs you’re right, no one cares, but for anything with longer training periods, licensing exams, or other upfront costs job hopping is a potential problem

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          if a person has left a recent job in less than a year I want to know why.

          I had to… uhh… take care of a sick family member “full-time” (unsaid: it was myself). I’m a great wage slave, I promise!

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            Exactly. It’s not regarded as a serious point of consideration in interview, in part because there’s just 100 bigger priorities to interviewers and in part because the excuses are unquestionable even if they are always bs. Interviewers just have to accept the excuse in all cases because in some of them they might be true and there’s so many excuses everywhere it’s not worth a strike for them, therefore there is literally no issue with it.

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        I’m at 8 months, almost 9, and tbh my answer is going to be geared towards “I want to utilize greater aspects of my educational skillset towards project development outside of direct care interactions” or some shit like that

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          Yeah, that seems reasonable to me. As long as the new job can meet the expectations. I’d expect a follow up about how you can accomplish that unless it’s obvious by the type of job or whatever.

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    job hopping also kills any possibility of union building so no matter what you do you are still being played by capitalist interests. you’re not being a fucking rebel by getting 5% more of your surplus value after moving halfway across the country

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      Yeah it’s not rebellion but it does have an upward effect. Be nice if people just stayed put and massively bullied the boss collectively instead of very slightly bullying the boss on their own

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    Depending on what industry you work in, you either gotta be ready to job hop or get fucked over by restructuring. I made the mistake of trying to make good on a commitment to a job. Now I’ve been jobless for months and trying back into retail until something good opens up near me.

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      I’m in healthcare so it’s a special level of Hell I unwisely chose to get educated in, hoping to move into a state job in the next couple months.